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bahurd 11-21-2017 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1452819)
Somewhat confusing to old timers in the shop.

Sure, it's only been around now for a few decades.... :giggle:

Geometric dimensioning and tolerancing

Handy dandy calculator: Free software for calculating True Position

Random pic...


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6767acad5f.jpg

y8s 11-21-2017 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1452818)
Ohhh, Mister high & mighty. I started out on a table with a parallel straight edge and triangles. Only the senior designers got the fancy machines.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2f1590ba2e.jpg

I started in junior high with a t-square and triangles. That was part of my lost post. My first instructor was bald with waxed handlebar mustache and lots of junk studebakers in the school shop.

Not him. He was older and had 150% more charicature level and a funny voice.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...00758d6bf8.png

High school drafting teacher also had a big mustache and strange personality. #1 joke in that class was, of course, holding the eraser brush in front of your mouth and mocking his voice. He laughed every time and then gave you detention.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...106b506b8f.png

I still use 2B in my mechanical pencils. so soft and lovely. fuck that HB noise.

z31maniac 11-21-2017 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1452819)
Geometric Dimensioning and Tolerancing. Symbols and numbers designed to make engineering drawings universal. Somewhat confusing to old timers in the shop.

I guess that shows how hard it is to get new standards in place. I worked in Engineering for nearly a decade (up until the last year) and never even heard of this.

I didn't realize there was a big issue following the drawing standards already in place.

Joe Perez 11-21-2017 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by DNMakinson (Post 1452802)
If you both understand the capabilities of the manufacturing system, then it is easy to get what you expect.

This reminds me a great deal of when we got a new mechanical designer back at PR&E in the mid 00s.

Dennis was about my age, and was well versed in Solidworks. His predecessor, Dave, grew up with a drafting table and a pen.


You could tell just by looking at them which products Dave had designed and which ones Dennis did. Dave's panel designs were very boxy and angular, Dennis had a flair for curves and interesting patterns.

Trouble is, Dennis' stuff was a real pain in the ass to manufacture.

Dave knew that the fab shop was going to be cutting this stuff on a turret press and folding it with a 200 ton brake which I suspect was originally used to manufacture battleship hulls during WW1. His parts weren't fancy, but they always fit together.

Dennis could never accept that just because he could specify a tolerance to 0.001" didn't mean that the shop could actually hit that number repeatably, and that designing interlocking parts such that it's an interference situation if they're +0.01" off isn't a good idea in a mass-production environment under those conditions.



https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b9be9e775a.png

99mx5 11-21-2017 05:29 PM

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Joe Perez 11-21-2017 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Enginerd (Post 1452755)
What I hate the most is the drawing made entirely in fine yellow lines. How the fuck am I supposed to print that?

Serious answer:

First, select this plot style:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...852f5fff6d.png



Second, un-check this box:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...018d0b6a52.png



Viola! Legible prints.

Enginerd 11-22-2017 01:23 AM

and when it's sent to you in pdf format?

Lokiel 11-22-2017 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1452918)
:
Viola! Legible prints.

That's NOT a Viola, THIS is a Viola:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...99a9825863.jpg
(Sorry, couldn't help myself).

sixshooter 11-22-2017 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Enginerd (Post 1452945)
and when it's sent to you in pdf format?

https://assets.pcmag.com/media/image...980&height=350

Erat 11-22-2017 08:32 AM

I took a couple drafting and blueprint classes in college. They helped me slightly and certainly added to my confusion. This is probably why im freezing my ass off on the roof trying to thaw and get an RTU working. Instead of sitting in a warm comfortable office sipping lattes and drawing pictures.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dc86e1a4ec.jpg

This is a high demand industry though, and decent money.

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DNMakinson 11-22-2017 11:42 AM

Came across this drawing today. I have shown the general drawing, including the assembly view (minus the not yet added panel). Then a blow-up of the assembly view. What is wrong with that view?


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c9dda1b62e.jpg

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...de909840f7.jpg

hi_im_sean 11-22-2017 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1452967)
I took a couple drafting and blueprint classes in college. They helped me slightly and certainly added to my confusion. This is probably why im freezing my ass off on the roof trying to thaw and get an RTU working. Instead of sitting in a warm comfortable office sipping lattes and drawing pictures.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dc86e1a4ec.jpg

This is a high demand industry though, and decent money.

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Would much rather work on a cold RTU, than a "AZ in summer hot" one.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...count_id%253D2

And that wasn't even a really hot day.

dcamp2 11-22-2017 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by DNMakinson (Post 1453010)
Came across this drawing today. I have shown the general drawing, including the assembly view (minus the not yet added panel). Then a blow-up of the assembly view. What is wrong with that view?



looks reasonable. why is the assembly complete on one side of the drawing and not the other?
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8bf44b4ee7.png

I'd also put a gap/dummy panel in there to show people where the lock nut washer goes. people are really good at putting things together wrong (myself included).

bahurd 11-22-2017 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by DNMakinson (Post 1453010)
Then a blow-up of the assembly view. What is wrong with that view?

The retaining nut isn't oriented per the plan view.

sixshooter 11-22-2017 12:41 PM

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Something's surely lost in the translation.

good2go 11-22-2017 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by DNMakinson (Post 1453010)
Came across this drawing today. I have shown the general drawing, including the assembly view (minus the not yet added panel). Then a blow-up of the assembly view. What is wrong with that view?


...

Why is the nut larger than the washer in the picture? By specs, the hex points should not exceed the diameter of the washer.

sixshooter 11-22-2017 01:04 PM

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The threads looked to be a weird pitch.

Anybody interested in some high tension power line insulators? My customer is about to end up with a surplus of about 216000 of them.

Erat 11-22-2017 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by DNMakinson (Post 1453010)
Came across this drawing today. I have shown the general drawing, including the assembly view (minus the not yet added panel). Then a blow-up of the assembly view. What is wrong with that view?


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c9dda1b62e.jpg

looks to me like the width of the "light pipe" or whatever is bigger than the hole it's going into.

DNMakinson 11-22-2017 02:06 PM

Not yet.

y8s 11-22-2017 02:22 PM

washer blades are backwards helix angle?

Erat 11-22-2017 02:31 PM

Yeah I read that wrong. Lmao.

another recent thermal event picture for my mistake.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f2d327b997.jpg

DNMakinson 11-22-2017 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1453058)
washer blades are backwards helix angle?

y8s wins. That LW would work OK for left-handed threads.

The actual parts are correct. Interesting to me that someone would go through the trouble to model a lock washer, but do it wrong.

Guess it was done by an engineer instead of a draftsman.

TurboTim 11-22-2017 03:01 PM

I was thinking, getting a 3/8" socket onto those nuts when they are on .500 centers may be a little tight. Should work though.

y8s 11-22-2017 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by DNMakinson (Post 1453064)
y8s wins. That LW would work OK for left-handed threads.

The actual parts are correct. Interesting to me that someone would go through the trouble to model a lock washer, but do it wrong.

Guess it was done by an engineer instead of a draftsman.

y8s looks at shit like this all day long.

But today... I'm faking some cell shading looks on product photos for a double sided setup guide.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3c7be24434.png

mitymazda 11-22-2017 05:32 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...921b774c11.jpg

mitymazda 11-22-2017 05:33 PM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a4d701f630.png

Art 11-22-2017 10:05 PM

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olderguy 11-22-2017 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Art (Post 1453146)
Drill had some play in the bearing. Only lasted some 20 years what a joke.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...33d5984ba2.jpg

Drop in a new set of brushes and slap it back together for another 20.

mgeoffriau 11-23-2017 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1453043)
The threads looked to be a weird pitch.

Anybody interested in some high tension power line insulators? My customer is about to end up with a surplus of about 216000 of them.

Sell them to dumb A/V guys as speaker cable risers. (I'm not kidding.)

thirdgen 11-23-2017 09:24 AM

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Braineack 11-23-2017 10:42 AM

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...0d&oe=5AA2EC84

Godless Commie 11-23-2017 02:14 PM

We were talking about shaving preferences here a while back..

Here's mine:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9b3dc38dc.jpeg

So I got a shave and a haircut this afternoon...

DeerHunter 11-23-2017 04:07 PM

Two bits?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...05621a3858.png

Erat 11-23-2017 04:41 PM

Nah,

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8b8dda5e80.png

Canadian government recently fucked me in regards to a few of these. ^^

Bunch of loonie's!!

mitymazda 11-24-2017 11:42 PM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f097b96fc1.jpg

sixshooter 11-25-2017 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mitymazda (Post 1453354)

Wow, those antifa demonstrations look violent.

What we need is a force for goodness in this world.

thirdgen 11-25-2017 05:07 PM


mitymazda 11-26-2017 09:56 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...968f7427cc.gif

gesso 11-26-2017 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by mitymazda (Post 1453609)
noob instructions gif

That's pretty good, but I feel like it should be updated to show you how to use Google to search a website...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...64ec217e0e.jpg
Pulling up the subfloor in my garage attic so I can install more lighting. I know it would be easier to just drill holes from below and fish wire, but given we own the place it feel like it's good to do it right/better.

m2cupcar 11-27-2017 09:15 AM

I used my grandfather's tap/die kit to cut some threads on a ⅝" rod yesterday so I could add some HF pneumatic wheel/tires to my generator.
http://fe3miata.com/pics/17_1127_Zoe...die-kit-1p.jpg
http://fe3miata.com/pics/17_1127_Zoe...kit-detail.jpg

sixshooter 11-27-2017 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by gesso (Post 1453611)
That's pretty good, but I feel like it should be updated to show you how to use Google to search a website...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...64ec217e0e.jpg
Pulling up the subfloor in my garage attic so I can install more lighting. I know it would be easier to just drill holes from below and fish wire, but given we own the place it feel like it's good to do it right/better.

The construction differences between your garage roof and mine are profound to me. Your beams are much taller. Mine are two by fours but are trussed and cross braced all over the place making the attic above the garage virtually useless for storage.

olderguy 11-27-2017 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 1453663)
I used my grandfather's tap/die kit to cut some threads on a ⅝" rod yesterday so I could add some HF pneumatic wheel/tires to my generator.
http://fe3miata.com/pics/17_1127_Zoe...die-kit-1p.jpg
http://fe3miata.com/pics/17_1127_Zoe...kit-detail.jpg

Lot of good things in 1911.

rleete 11-28-2017 10:40 AM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2d2cb72c2e.jpg

mitymazda 11-28-2017 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 1453670)
Lot of good things in 1911.

Back when a combo of dangerous chemicals and using baby seal fur for polishing made wonderful things... in all fairness this is actually 1918 and a commercial model. Came out of a sock drawer in Arizona. That bluing though!

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...83ab84dad2.jpg

rleete 11-28-2017 03:30 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...75fc885a73.jpg

Joe Perez 11-29-2017 09:38 AM

This is the Right Stuff:


Joe Perez 11-29-2017 09:41 AM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a3128b5292.png

99mx5 11-29-2017 12:08 PM

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Joe Perez 11-29-2017 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by 99mx5 (Post 1454131)
(USB)

:bowrofl:


Spotted this morning: Tumbleweave.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f4e68103bb.png

(aka, Urban Tumbleweed.)

mitymazda 11-29-2017 12:33 PM

Go epic... eBay that shit!

m2cupcar 11-29-2017 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1454133)
Spotted this morning: Tumbleweave.

What I thought when I first saw the image.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...558e226eaf.jpg

Joe Perez 11-29-2017 09:36 PM

Some very talented Jews rocking it:


triple88a 11-30-2017 08:53 AM

click to play


Joe Perez 11-30-2017 12:04 PM

^ Nice.



We have this box of heads that gets trotted out every time we are lighting a new set here at the station.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...44ac131ea8.png


They creep me out just a little.

Joe Perez 11-30-2017 10:23 PM

This is a really fascinating video. It's a realtime recording of the Apollo 13 incident, with the flight director (Houston internal) intercom loop in the left channel, and the capcom (spacecraft) radio on the right, starting just before the event and continuing for a full hour, along with a graphical depiction of the AGC DSKY, the spacecraft itself, and film taken during the event.


Braineack 12-01-2017 08:33 AM

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m2cupcar 12-01-2017 10:49 AM

I'm captivated by crash test videos. That Nissan Tsuru is the old Sentra- likely marketed to third world countries? Ouch.


Girz0r 12-01-2017 11:38 AM

More jafro goodness.


wackbards 12-01-2017 09:47 PM

I rented a Tsuru in Baja for a week last spring. I think it weighed 1600 lbs? It would get stuck in the dust because it was too light. It had a single red LED bulb in the gauge cluster for a warning light. No labels, just "SOMETHING IS WRONG"

But I got to rent a manual, and I never got pulled over, because this is what all the taxis look like in Mexico. My folks went to the same town this week. I told them to rent a SUV.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...96ccde39ff.jpg


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