I will say try that dipping is an acquired thing. As an ex heavy smoker and ex military that is an ex nuke field dude you can't always smoke. However, most don't care if you dip and spit in a bottle. Even though it is gross as all hell and I always ran the rule of resealable bottles required in my truck. Nothing ruins the night like a spilled open bottle of Skoaol in a Humvee. Having been an avid smoker at times I'd try dip as I couldn't always have a smoke near certain things in certain areas. So I understand the need to fill a addiction void. Hence the need to cater to military people with camo and such.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e558b5ab67.jpgRandom yay for area denial.

Missed some XKCD last week.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d7c7dea4fd.png
Title text: Some other studio should do the Antz/A Bug's Life thing and release The Dingbats Movie at the same time.


I assumed they'd made up the thing about there being a movie about Emoji.


I was wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emoji_Movie

When you're packing up the kitchen for a move, and also you are a nerd:


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...91a8d3f6a1.png

Does it flow?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...anaandworm.JPG

--Ian

707 got nothing on my people... try not to make a mess in your shorts:

I wish i could make this shit up, man.
Burnt up male plug end was just out of frame, i should have included it.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b5aa8d16ed.jpg

I grilled my coworker about this, come to find out he knew and did nothing about it.
Also, that's 2" water pipe above it.

why is your penis red and black?

Clearly an after picture.

Pretty cool that photobucket made it so that you have to pay if you want to have your images posted to another site. There goes my entire build thread. Fuck that company. At least it's only $400 a year, pretty reasonable. :vash:

https://i1.wp.com/i93.photobucket.co...y.jpg~original

It is really decimating forums everywhere. I expect (hope) the backlash against them will be significant.

http://khkgears.net/wp-content/uploa...l-Backlash.jpg

most people call that a bait and switch.

For Brain:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ed79fbaddc.jpg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f48b6176f2.jpg

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...316524ccb9.jpg

Doubtful. Photobucket isn't the first site to pull this. I lost lots of stuff to Picoodle and Imageframe. Imgur hasn't fucked me yet, but I've just stopped using external hosts entirely since MT started hosting.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9c56dcc529.png


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...38befd4468.png

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...bd6e5d934c.jpg

Unrelated:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...db810914c2.jpg

^ original poster of that was not internet savvy enough to blank out their name. Sarah Linton is possibly soon to be unemployed. HIPPA is not to be fucked with.

Perhaps I'm a little dense. Where do you see her name in that image?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2373bb5a5f.jpg

It's not in that image, that image is cropped. I saw it first on Facebook and her name was still attached.

I suddenly have a strong urge to move to Hong Kong.

Also, how did we never notice this in the 80s?

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6eb9236310.png

There was a time, long ago, when it was common to add hard drives to PCs by pluggin a card containing both the hard drive and the controller into one of the system's expansion slots.

Then, we became enlightened, and drive controllers began to be integrated into the motherboard, eliminating the next for bulky and expensive expansion cards.

And now, here we are:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...668c4b7bc2.png



What's next, external modems?

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0f8510a7e5.png


Oh.

I picked up a used LSI "Warp Drive" a little while ago (~$150 IIRC). Its the better part of a decade old, a mere 800GB, but its as fast as a lot of these new NVMe drives. Its basically x4 200GB SSDs on a single pci-e card. Together in raid 0 it feels like it lives up to the name. I can only imagine how mind blowing they would have been a few years back.

http://www.storagereview.com/images/...e-BLP4-400.jpg

https://68.media.tumblr.com/4baefa38...bh6do1_400.gif

That's a bridge and/or router (depending on how it's configured). This is an external modem:

http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/u...DPIC-36942.jpg

--Ian

Found this, made me laugh for a secong

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...34b7babb7a.png

My first experience with data-transfer: Dataphon S21d
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=...pid%3D15.1&f=1

i just bought an external modem yesterday...

Hey when did Emilio (949) start doing the Dos Equis commercials?

https://i.imgflip.com/1s5baw.jpg
via Imgflip Meme Generator

That's not a modem, it's a router.

--Ian

Isnt a modem defined by doing an analog-digital translation? So a cable modem is not really a modem?

A modem is a modulator/demodulator. It's a layer 1 device (physical layer) that encodes information on a carrier wave by modulating it and decodes information in the opposite direction.

A "cable modem" is a layer 2 (link layer) device if it's acting as a bridge and a layer 3 device (network layer) if it's acting as router. (arguably layer 4 if it's doing NAT, or even layer 5 if it's doing VPN). It may contain one or more modems, but they are just components. Calling it a "cable modem" is a bit like calling a car a "road light". Yes, it goes on the road and it's usually got at least one light in it, but that's sort of missing the point.

Also, in the case of a "cable modem" the physical layer interfaces are usually ethernet, DOCSIS, and possibly wifi. The component that imposes digital signals onto an analog carrier wave for these protocols could be considered to be a "modem", but is generally referred to as a "phy" instead. The FIOS router is optical, and I'm not actually sure what the encoding scheme is for the optical side of things there. It might just be flashing the light on/off, and if so then it's not modulating a carrier wave at all.

--Ian

On the public side, a cable modem is a modem in the same sense that a POTS modem is. Both are modulating an analog carrier to encode digital data. The only meaningful difference is that with a POTS modem the carrier is down at audible frequencies, whereas with a cable modem it's up in the RF range, typically several hundred Mhz. Both units work in exactly the same manner, one is just a lot faster than the other.



That is correct. A FiOS connection is truly digital, with no carrier* to modulate.


Wanna really twist your nipple? Read up about how Laserdisc works. Like a CD or a DVD, the disc contains only two states: pit and land. And yet, despite using a binary medium, it's a 100% analog** system. The width and spacing of the pits and lands correspond directly to a clipping point in the original composite analog carrier, and are directly translated back out into the carrier with no digital processing during playback. It's a completely analog implementation of PWM:


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2a5dae7365.png

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4664e1ee79.png

This is true as far as it goes -- it just doesn't go far enough. A true "cable modem" would be a point-to-point device that you plugged into a high-speed serial port. It would send data between two defined endpoints in a serial stream with no framing, and if you wanted to use it for internet connectivity then you would need to run PPP or some similar protocol over it. A modem has no clue what a packet is, it runs in terms of bits/bytes.

The "cable modems" that actually exist contain a lot more logic than that. They are, at the very least, remote ethernet bridges, where they bridge ethernet frames across a DOCSIS network using the source and destination mac addresses in order to decide which packets go where. Most of them are routers, having their own IP addresses, making packet forwarding decisions based upon the IP addresses in the packet, and usually supporting network and port address translation features in order to make multiple devices in your house appear to be a single globally routable IP address.

--Ian

Fair enough. A "cable modem" contains a modem, as well as a router, a network-address-translator, a DHCP server, and a bunch of other modern shit.

But, by the same token, a 1980's vintage POTS modem also contains a UART, a microcontroller to interpret escape codes (eg, the Hayes command set), a synthesizer to generate DTMF tones, and so on.

Technology evolves. Concepts remain the same.

Also, you posted in the pictures thread without a picture. And as I'm in a bit of a transitional stage in my life right now, pony:



https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...91cfb2f124.png

Sure, but a modulation and demodulation is a modem's primary and highest-level purpose, whereas it is not in a "cable modem". Any car with a built in cell phone or bluetooth system has a modem in it as well, but you don't it a "road modem", do you?

As for photos, here's one. Captioned "wrong tool for the job":

http://www.codrus.com/cars/fd/fd-groceries.jpg

A Miata is actually more useful for holding groceries than an FD.

--Ian

Good explanation. I was always fascinated about the dichotomy of analogue and digital inherent to the LD format. In its day, it was truly a fabulous medium.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e36b13a7ae.jpg

I still have a couple of large boxes in my basement containing my collection of very expensive LaserDiscs (in the '90s, they typically cost between $60 and $90 each, with some special editions being in the hundreds of dollars). Besides the Collector's Editions of Toy Story, 7even, Aliens and the like, I also have the original cuts of Star Wars Episodes IV-VI (you know, where Han shot first and there was no CGI Jabba The Hut).

I also have the below AC3- RF demodulator, which allowed me to enjoy the full 5.1 DD soundtrack, when available:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...241d1a0f98.jpg

From Wikipedia:
See how we came full circle?

A car's primary function is to move people and objects over physical space, using a network of roads.

A modem's primary function is to move digital data over analog carriers, using a network of wires (and, increasingly, electromagnetic radiation in free space.)

These devices may also provide ancillary functions, such as:

• Air conditioning (cars)
• Ring detection and auto-answer (80s modems)
• DHCP (00s modems)
• AM/FM/CD/Sirius-XM audio reproduction (cars)
• Escape-code processing (80s modems)
• Network address translation (00s modems)
• Geolocation / navigation (cars)
• Echo-cancellation and line conditioning (80s modems)
• Routing (00s modems)
• Prostate massage (cars)
• Buffering, flow-control, and RS-232 UART (80s modems)
• Buffering, flow-control, and USB / Ethernet (00s modems)

None of these ancillary functions differentiate the device in question from its primary task. In the year 2017, a car and a modem are equally likely to contain a bluetooth transceiver (which, to be pedantic, is ALSO a modem. So that'd be a modem inside a modem in the case of the modem, but just a regular modem in the case of the car,) and yet we are still able to intuitively know which one we put the groceries into, and which one plugs into the wall.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...81dde5c7cb.png

(Dammit...)






Haha. Also for holding sofas, lawnmowers, full size residential water heaters, 50cc motorcycles, Ikea furniture, rollaround toolchests, beer fridges, 12 foot ladders, plumbing pipe and electrical conduit, engine stands and engine hoists from Harbor Freight (at the same time, no less- albeit with the pax seat removed), and a whole bunch of other hilarious shit that most of us have managed to pack in there from time to time. :giggle:





EDIT: Man, I'm getting all kinds of nostalgic here, what with the various returns that Google is providing me in the course of researching this post. Thinking back to the renegade network that we built in college, the BBSes of the same era, the bookstores that we used to hang out in, the Radio Shack in the Promenades Mall in Port Charlotte, FL which disappeared during Hurricane Charley, and so on.

So very nerd...

If anyone is still looking, she works at 220 E. 42nd St in Manhattan. The office is on the west side of the building, just to the right after the security desk from the main entrance.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1d37b66c03.png

@Joe Perez

If A then B does not imply that if B then A. There can be multiple types of things that have the same primary purpose, if you allow the definition of that primary purpose to be sufficiently vague. A bus also has the primary function of moving people and objects over physical space, using a network of roads, but it is not a car, it is a bus.

Similarly, a router or a bridge also has the primary function of moving digital data over analog carriers using a network of wires. So the fact that routers, bridges, and modems all do this doesn't mean that they are all modems. It means "Hm, I need to look deeper to identify the features that distinguish one class of such device from another". To say otherwise would mean that pretty much every device that Arista, Cisco, or Juniper sell is a modem. Am I sitting on a modem here?

https://photos.smugmug.com/Arista/Ar...IMG_7101-L.jpg

The networking industry subclasses devices by the highest networking layer at which they operate, and the term "modem" applies to layer 1 devices. Higher layer devices often incorporate components from the lower layers, but generally not vice-versa. Routers contain bridges, and both of them contain physical layer devices (transceivers, optics, phys, or "modems" if you want to apply that term).

The usage of the term "cable modem" has nothing to do with the fact that it is modulating and demodulating data over a cable TV network. It is a marketing term, used to convey to consumers that this is the device they need to buy if they want to replace a dial-up internet service with a cable TV-based internet service. As with many such marketing terms, it is being used incorrectly.

--Ian

Nice try...
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ebbf2aad7b.png

I bow to you, sir.
:bowrofl:






Are you being serious right now? As in, you seem to be trying to convince me that, from the customer's point of view, the primary purpose of a "cable modem" is something other than carrying digital data into and out of the subscriber's home over a coaxial cable.


I'll admit that I'm a little tipsy right now, and kinda on the verge of a meat & carb coma (see picture below), but that's really what it seems like you're saying.



This is a hot dog:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ba9df0f773.png


This is the view from beneath the train tracks (Red line @ Irving Park):

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9199f42992.png


This is rat poison:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...cdd6cd5187.png




What do all of these things have to do with one another? Astonishingly little, really, aside from the fact that Byron's Hot Dogs is right next to the tracks, and where there are tracks, there tends to be rat poison.

Are you drunk or trolling? Go back and read it again.

--Ian

Fine, you win. If a person uses a device which modulates an analog carrier as a means of transmitting and receiving digital data, then it's a modem, regardless of whatever other supporting functions that device provides, but only so long as the user interface is RS-232.

As soon as you add any sort of Ethernet or USB functionality, it ceases to be a modem.

Here's the Chicken of Concession:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...aeaf988763.png

At least she's a redhead, amirite?

Edit:
Mazda even puts goofy faces on their concept cars.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f3be068c87.jpg

I keep trying to not look at this.

It's freaking me the hell out.

Why is the tongue textured like that of a cat? Is there a subtext in this?

Just use your imagination Joe.








https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net...46&oe=59FEE95C

it's a modem and a router:

ha, every bit of code I write feels like a hack.

here is the last code i wrote:

$(document).bind('keyup', function(e) {
if (e.which==39) {
$('.carousel').carousel('next');
} else if (e.which==37) {
$('.carousel').carousel('prev');
}
});

On the plus side, the truck is in fabulous condition and the car carrier is brand new. As in: all four tires still had the stickers on the tread. Zero miles. Man, I love Penske equipment. The new design has a step in between the fenders, which is a nice touch. I don't know why anyone would rent from U-haul.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b4bebf1ad4.png

And it turns out that a car carrier makes a fabulous inspection lift. Which leads to the minus side:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7353c6083d.png

Not exactly what I need to be dealing with the day before moving day. This radiator is only two years old...

I am stuck in Toronto airport while flight is delayed 4 hours. I am, however, getting quite hammered on the airline's dime. Rum and Coke.

Tour company paid for dinner twice over as an apology, and are working on a partial refund. It ain't even their fault.

LMAO... I so hate this

I dont see the problem:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1309b8f8cf.png

I only have 4 doors total in my stable.

A little late to the party, but anytime a Laserdisc is mentioned (albeit that's not very often) I always think of this movie:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8efed5156b.png