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DeerHunter 05-30-2017 07:55 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0bf4f215a8.jpg

Joe Perez 05-30-2017 08:06 PM

^ Cute. :likecat:

What's in the drawer of things?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5d52d6bea1.png



https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...60b9458708.png


Well, that's a bit of a let-down.

triple88a 05-30-2017 10:11 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0b49b1902c.jpg

sixshooter 05-31-2017 08:43 AM

So awesome:


Godless Commie 05-31-2017 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1418521)
So awesome:

Reminds me of

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...104b7eae0c.jpg

Joe Perez 05-31-2017 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Godless Commie (Post 1418523)
Reminds me of

Yeah, see, they should have lowered the landing gear prior to landing the airplane. Then everything would have been ok.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1e82ec0fb7.png

m2cupcar 05-31-2017 11:06 AM


G3ML1NGZ 05-31-2017 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Godless Commie (Post 1418523)


Somewhere in my computer I have pictures of a russian sukhoi test plane after a belly touchdown. we never heard what exactly caused it, one theory was that they had turned off aural warnings during testing and then got no warning before landing.

DeerHunter 05-31-2017 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by G3ML1NGZ (Post 1418581)
...aural warnings...

Don't you mean oral warmings?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...cc7b13e595.jpg

It led to the same result, in any case:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3840223f46.jpg

concealer404 05-31-2017 12:54 PM

click to play


sixshooter 05-31-2017 01:40 PM

Baseball is boring, but this is amusing. And the team is the Hartford Yard Goats, which is colorful.

https://youtu.be/ihwnFZlOLbM

bahurd 05-31-2017 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by G3ML1NGZ (Post 1418581)
Somewhere in my computer I have pictures of a russian sukhoi test plane after a belly touchdown. we never heard what exactly caused it, one theory was that they had turned off aural warnings during testing and then got no warning before landing.

Looks like the runway was foamed which means they knew it was going to be a gear up landing.

Joe Perez 05-31-2017 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1418660)
Looks like the runway was foamed which means they knew it was going to be a gear up landing.

Yes, that photo is LOT Polish Airlines Flight 16, a 767. Combination of a failure of the primary hydraulics and an open circuit breaker upstream of the electrically-driven backup. An attempted gravity-drop failed, so they flew it until the fuel was depleted, then bellied it onto a prepared runway.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b490781093.png

http://theflyingengineer.com/out-of-...ar-up-landing/

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-probe-365584/

The aircraft was repaired and returned to service.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...645ec77eb1.png

samnavy 05-31-2017 07:04 PM

^As long as nobody tries to be a hero, belly-landings are usually pretty uneventful.

codrus 05-31-2017 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 1418716)
^As long as nobody tries to be a hero, belly-landings are usually pretty uneventful.

Expensive though...

--Ian

bahurd 05-31-2017 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1418692)
Yes, that photo is LOT Polish Airlines Flight 16, a 767. Combination of a failure of the primary hydraulics and an open circuit breaker upstream of the electrically-driven backup. An attempted gravity-drop failed, so they flew it until the fuel was depleted, then bellied it onto a prepared runway.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b490781093.png

http://theflyingengineer.com/out-of-...ar-up-landing/

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-probe-365584/

The aircraft was repaired and returned to service.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...645ec77eb1.png

I guess I dated myself... Used to be SOP in the Air Force if a suspected/confirmed gear malfunction was to foam the runway.

Resulted in a couple "pucker factor" landings...

Joe Perez 05-31-2017 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1418738)
I guess I dated myself... Used to be SOP in the Air Force if a suspected/confirmed gear malfunction was to foam the runway.

There is not universal agreement upon this in commercial aviation. The Boeing 757/767/777 flight crew training manuals state:
Gear Disagree

Consideration should be given to landing at the most suitable airport with
adequate runway and fire fighting capability. Foaming the runway is not
necessary. Tests have shown that foaming provides minimal benefit and it takes
approximately 30 minutes to replenish the fire truck’s foam supply.

By comparison, the Airbus A318/319/320/321 manual states:
LDG WITH ABNORMAL L/G

In all cases, weight should be reduced as much as possible to provide the slowest
possible touchdown speed. Although foaming of the runway is not a requirement, full
advantage should be taken of any ATC offer to do so.

Boeing's stress on time required to replenish suggests that this recommendation is motivated largely by the conservation of foam for later use in the event of a post-landing fire. And one of the reports I linked to above specifically noted that the #2 engine caught fire because the foam was unevenly applied and the airplane landed off-center to the right, whereas the #1 engine, which ingested a large quantity of foam during the landing, dig not catch fire.


Copies of both FCTMs for anyone who cares:

Airbus: http://www.fwia.com/publications/Manuals/FCTM_767.pdf

Boeing: http://www.737ng.co.uk/A320%20321%20...g%20Manual.pdf


Some commercial airports possess dedicated vehicles whose sole purpose is to evenly apply foam to the runway:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9de56f3c77.jpg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...313444ad0a.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...20229b9d15.jpg

bahurd 05-31-2017 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1418746)
There is not universal agreement upon this in commercial aviation.

Some commercial airports possess dedicated vehicles whose sole purpose is to evenly apply foam to the runway:

My frame of reference = mid 1970's and military. Our manuals weren't written in lawyer speak.

In the case of the LOT flight the aircrew showed the value of experience (hours) but even with that they got shitty luck (after all the miles, gear didn't extend after all even with backup system). Good crew training + no fire = successful emergency landing.

Could've easily ended as a tradegy.

triple88a 06-01-2017 02:26 AM

This is how i like to dip my chicken fingers.

click to play


Joe Perez 06-01-2017 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1418776)
In the case of the LOT flight the aircrew showed the value of experience (hours) but even with that they got shitty luck (after all the miles, gear didn't extend after all even with backup system). Good crew training + no fire = successful emergency landing.

Yeah, I remember something my instructor once said to me. "A good landing is one you can walk away from. A great landing is one where the airplane can fly again."

By any reasonable metric, that was a great landing.

Here's a video of people who have been certified by the FAA (or equivalent foreign agencies) to be sane and reasonable doing shit that scares me.


z31maniac 06-01-2017 10:34 AM

Joe, any idea what was up with the 747 around the 3:30 mark? It looks like one of the landing gear was collapsed or didn't fully extend, but they knew there was a problem before it landed as you can see the emergency vehicles rushing out before it landed.

Guardiola 06-01-2017 11:39 AM

I have always liked watching crosswind landings.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...14df8b4fc0.gif

DeerHunter 06-01-2017 01:07 PM

Grooooan:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...cf221f54c4.jpg

rleete 06-01-2017 01:08 PM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...02c2a3cb14.jpg

rleete 06-01-2017 01:08 PM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0288db9ca0.jpg

bahurd 06-01-2017 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Guardiola (Post 1418866)
I have always liked watching crosswind landings.

B52 landing gear was designed to track into a crosswind, in the early 50's...


Joe Perez 06-01-2017 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by z31maniac (Post 1418849)
Joe, any idea what was up with the 747 around the 3:30 mark? It looks like one of the landing gear was collapsed or didn't fully extend, but they knew there was a problem before it landed as you can see the emergency vehicles rushing out before it landed.

That was Virgin Atlantic VS43, outbound Gatwick for Vegas.

A hydraulic actuator in the gear-retract mechanism for the right outer main had been improperly re-installed during service, rotated 180° out of position. It finally broke (its hydraulic inlet fitting apparently cracked or was knocked out of the body), during gear-up just after takeoff on Dec 29th 2014, about three months after it had been serviced. This caused the gear to jam in a partially-retracted position.

Incident: Virgin Atlantic B744 at London on Dec 29th 2014, hydraulic problem, landed safely without right main gear


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...370a4a1fcd.png


The crew detected the fault almost immediately after takeoff, so they aborted the Atlantic crossing and just made a quick hop out to the ocean to circle around while dumping fuel, before returning to Gatwick. So yeah, the airport had plenty of time to clear out inbound traffic and roll the equipment.


Here's a better video of it:

m2cupcar 06-01-2017 02:54 PM

http://68.media.tumblr.com/ba06dbd26...pak5o1_500.gif

DNMakinson 06-01-2017 09:53 PM

click to play


Joe Perez 06-02-2017 08:33 AM

Don't be the skvirrel:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ed4a18d36d.png

DNMakinson 06-02-2017 08:48 AM

Another Electric Power Pest:


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5f32aa09d1.jpg


Perhaps the most insidious of power plant pests are the fingernail-sized quagga (Figure 6) and zebra mussels. The invasive species originating from the Black and Caspian Sea region have caused millions of dollars in damage in the Great Lakes region, where they were discovered in 1988. Now, they are making their way through U.S. waterways. Their discovery at Lake Mead in 2007, and subsequent colonization of Lake Powell and parts of Central Arizona Project’s water-delivery system has put the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation (USBR), Salt River Project, and other Western power generators on high alert.

Joe Perez 06-02-2017 09:10 AM

I fucking hate quagga mussels. You can't eat 'em, you can't write good porno plots around 'em...

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...182cdc9558.jpg

sixshooter 06-02-2017 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by DNMakinson (Post 1419018)

click to play


Original version not modified by some chick without the artist's permission:


DNMakinson 06-02-2017 11:22 AM

^^ Thanks Steve.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ff1ccc8224.png

DNMakinson 06-02-2017 11:25 AM

I think I'm addicted to MT.net

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...475123a1c9.jpg

Maybe I'll give it up for Lent.... in 2020

shuiend 06-02-2017 01:29 PM

I did not even know things like this existed.
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Scaxx 06-02-2017 02:08 PM

Yikes, that's cringe worthy

dr_boone 06-02-2017 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1419140)
I did not even know things like this existed.

Now that you have the big red neck ford with the camo they would probably let you hang out with them.

Erat 06-02-2017 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1419140)
I did not even know things like this existed.
​​​​​​​

It's actually to a pretty big genre. The boys at work love this shit.

One of the songs that really made it took off was released in like 2010.

He drops a line regarding Myspace. lol

You ever wonder what goes on in the midwest... Yup, here it is.

turbofan 06-02-2017 03:57 PM

Oh... oh wow.

bahurd 06-02-2017 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1419140)
I did not even know things like this existed.
​​​​​​

Live a sheltered life?


Joe Perez 06-02-2017 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1419209)
Live a sheltered life?

I, too, had no idea that whatever that is called was a thing that exists.


These fine folks have actually re-made the entirety of The Beatles’ Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band as a Star Wars tribute.

And it ain't bad. Not everyone's cuppa, I'm sure.








Joe Perez 06-02-2017 09:05 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7e5007153c.png

viperormiata 06-02-2017 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1419140)
I did not even know things like this existed.

Story time.

September 2015 through December of that year I was hired by a local to help prep him for two bodybuilding shows, one in Miami (NPC) and one local (ANBF). If the gym is empty when I train anyone I put on a Pandora station of their choosing. This seemed like a good idea until I started working with him and running his training camp....I had to listen to Big Smo, Colt Ford, Mud Digger, etc... for two hours a day...5-6 days a week

I wanted to fucking die.

thirdgen 06-03-2017 01:08 AM

That voice though:

Joe Perez 06-03-2017 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by Guardiola (Post 1418866)
I have always liked watching crosswind landings.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...14df8b4fc0.gif

Skip ahead to 3:35.


(Also, there is no legitimate reason why the pilot at 4:15 should still be alive. Pretty sure they broke all of physics / aerodynamics with that abort.)



Also II, see 0:35:






Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1419296)
That voice though:
https://youtu.be/Snh-ufvXWIk

PMJ is always so full of win.

sixshooter 06-03-2017 02:04 PM

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It's going to be a good lunch.

Joe Perez 06-03-2017 03:03 PM

Cubanman approves.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ceaa62af19.png

portabull 06-03-2017 03:30 PM

90 minute stogie.

Dann0 06-03-2017 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1419367)

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6598adde78.jpg

Apparently Sammy faked his death like Tupac.

DNMakinson 06-04-2017 08:34 AM

click to play


wackbards 06-04-2017 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1419315)

.

I was working on the C-17 program when we lost 173 at Elmendorf (~7:30 in that vid). The guy was practicing a stall maneuver for an airshow. I think it's still the only complete hull loss for the C-17. It's a tough bird.

Joe Perez 06-04-2017 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by wackbards (Post 1419536)
I was working on the C-17 program when we lost 173 at Elmendorf (~7:30 in that vid). The guy was practicing a stall maneuver for an airshow. I think it's still the only complete hull loss for the C-17. It's a tough bird.

I was wondering what happened there. It looked like it was completely under control, right up until it wasn't. Hard for me to imagine intentionally doing a stall in something that big, at so low an altitude... And watching that takeoff climb blows my mind. So very much wing-loading...


Jumpmaster be like "get the fuck off this airplane!"


bahurd 06-04-2017 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1419539)
I was wondering what happened there.

Too low + Too slow + Bad luck/Hubris = Crash


The Air Force's probe after the crash found that the C-17 pilots ignored a stall-warning system and used incorrect procedures in an attempt to regain altitude.
Pilot Over Confidence Contributes to Fatal C-17 Crash in Alaska

hi_im_sean 06-04-2017 01:18 PM

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...eb&oe=59A6794E

Joe Perez 06-04-2017 02:38 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...fb38518993.png

Chiburbian 06-04-2017 08:53 PM

747 was cargo that shifted (wasn't properly secured)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...shifting-cargo

Lots of dead people in that video...

hi_im_sean 06-04-2017 09:44 PM

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...40&oe=59E1861F

99mx5 06-05-2017 01:19 AM

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Braineack 06-05-2017 07:44 AM

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