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golftdibrad 10-31-2022 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1629911)
He didnt even go on wastes of making hydrogen. Electrolysis process is very inefficient and requires a ton of electricity to make a very tiny amount of hydrogen. From what i've seen about 180kWh of electricity for 1 gallon of hydrogen by weight

Then you have to compress it to absurd pressures or liquify it, both just as energy intensive as the production.

Supe 11-01-2022 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by golftdibrad (Post 1629966)
Then you have to compress it to absurd pressures or liquify it, both just as energy intensive as the production.

Hydrogen enters the realm of feasibility when its production is tied to nuclear power, both electrolytically for current gen reactors and thermochemically for next gen high temperature reactors, but the US prefers anti-nuclear scare tactics and TV dramas over facts and real world solutions.

Braineack 11-01-2022 09:51 AM

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golftdibrad 11-01-2022 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Supe (Post 1630025)
Hydrogen enters the realm of feasibility when its production is tied to nuclear power, both electrolytically for current gen reactors and thermochemically for next gen high temperature reactors, but the US prefers anti-nuclear scare tactics and TV dramas over facts and real world solutions.

Yes, but you could also just make synthetic liquid fuels and use all our existing infrastructure to handle, store, and use the energy.

Joe Perez 11-01-2022 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by golftdibrad (Post 1630027)
Yes, but you could also just make synthetic liquid fuels and use all our existing infrastructure to handle, store, and use the energy.

Or... and bear with me here, because this gets complicated: we could *not* do that thing, and instead throw hundreds of billions of dollars into research on subjects which is trendy and scores political points among people who don't understand physics, chemistry or math.


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golftdibrad 11-01-2022 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1630028)
Or... and bear with me here, because this gets complicated: we could *not* do that thing, and instead throw hundreds of billions of dollars into research on subjects which is trendy and scores political points among people who don't understand physics, chemistry or math.


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I recall seeing a clip about 20 years ago from a Toyota engineer on TV for car and driver or something when they were testing a prototype Highlander fuel cell vehicle. This guy was the lead on the project and absolutely destroyed the Toyoda. When asked how long it will take to get this tech on the road he said 'it will never work at scale' They kept asking him questions and he just shit allllll over his own project. Then, like any good interviewer would do, they asked why he was telling them all this, and was he not afraid he would get in trouble with the boses? Dude said something to the effect of nope, I put in for retirement last month, this is my last project and next week I'm done at Toyoda. The world needs to know this is a terrible technology that will go nowhere; its simply not practical. legend.

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Joe Perez 11-01-2022 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by golftdibrad (Post 1630029)
Dude said something to the effect of nope, I put in for retirement last month, this is my last project and next week I'm done at Toyoda. The world needs to know this is a terrible technology that will go nowhere; its simply not practical. legend.

Suppose I told you I was working on a technology which enabled us to extract ancient fossilized algae from deep beneath the ocean, transport it halfway around the world, run it through an energy-intensive process to separate it into a variety of highly volatile and toxic liquids, and use some of them to create forks which can be used once and then tossed into a landfill, in order to save people from having to perform the manual labor of washing a fork after using it.

That would seem fairly impractical, were we not already conditioned to accept single-use plastic forks as ordinary.

In a hypothetical world in which the supply of ancient fossilized algae is either depleted, or in which demand for it exceeds supply by such a large margin that it is prohibitively expensive, then our perspective on what is and is not practical might be different.



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golftdibrad 11-01-2022 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1630032)
Suppose I told you I was working on a technology which enabled us to extract ancient fossilized algae from deep beneath the ocean, transport it halfway around the world, run it through an energy-intensive process to separate it into a variety of highly volatile and toxic liquids, and use some of them to create forks which can be used once and then tossed into a landfill, in order to save people from having to perform the manual labor of washing a fork after using it.

That would seem fairly impractical, were we not already conditioned to accept single-use plastic forks as ordinary.

In a hypothetical world in which the supply of ancient fossilized algae is either depleted, or in which demand for it exceeds supply by such a large margin that it is prohibitively expensive, then our perspective on what is and is not practical might be different.




Sure, and I am all for throwing some money at scientists to develop future tech. Even stuff like H2 that is still too far off to be practical.

My big issue with H2 right now is there is no good way to produce it easily other than SMR's, and that makes just as much carbon as buring the methane directly. And storage is a royal bitch. Well to wheels its more because of the extra equipment involved.

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Braineack 11-01-2022 04:12 PM

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too bad no one in the 911 community does DIY.

DeerHunter 11-03-2022 02:39 PM

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Joe Perez 11-03-2022 07:11 PM

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DeerHunter 11-03-2022 07:25 PM

See you later, aerogator!

Godless Commie 11-03-2022 09:01 PM

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fooger03 11-04-2022 12:15 PM

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Did I do the 120v to 240v conversion correctly? Do you think I can get the full 40 amps?

DeerHunter 11-04-2022 06:30 PM

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Lokiel 11-04-2022 08:38 PM

"Hoon modz" in days of yore...
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I liked the use of "NON-INFLAMMABLE"!

DeerHunter 11-04-2022 09:16 PM

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DeerHunter 11-04-2022 09:17 PM

I guess cats don't always land on their feet.

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Godless Commie 11-04-2022 10:13 PM

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DeerHunter 11-06-2022 01:11 PM

Suzuki could use a new stylist.

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