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Yeah, nah. See I have a job and hobbies and things to occupy my mind. I work hard, i buy cool ****, i use cool ****, i make good friends and enjoy my life with them. The gubment, no matter how hard they tried will never get me in the streets to "protest".
I'm thoroughly convinced these people have no jobs, no hobbies, provide nothing to society are are just the worst. They also think they are making a difference, which is comical to me because i think they make their argument worse.
And one day you lose your job, or your hobbies are banned, or your kid's school closes down, or hospitals in your community get de-funded, or public employees are purged, or basic commodities are taxed to the hilt, or certain individuals start getting wealthier beyond imagination because of their connections to powers to be, or some other thing because the "gubment" feels like it...
What do you do then?
What do you do when your cool friends get arrested for no reason?
What happens when you can not find work because you may have said / done the "wrong thing" 20 years ago?
And one day you lose your job, or your hobbies are banned, or your kid's school closes down, or hospitals in your community get de-funded, or public employees are purged, or basic commodities are taxed to the hilt, or certain individuals start getting wealthier beyond imagination because of their connections to powers to be, or some other thing because the "gubment" feels like it...
What do you do then?
What do you do when your cool friends get arrested for no reason?
What happens when you can not find work because you may have said / done the "wrong thing" 20 years ago?
And one day you lose your job, or your hobbies are banned, or your kid's school closes down, or hospitals in your community get de-funded, or public employees are purged, or basic commodities are taxed to the hilt, or certain individuals start getting wealthier beyond imagination because of their connections to powers to be, or some other thing because the "gubment" feels like it...
What do you do then?
What do you do when your cool friends get arrested for no reason?
What happens when you can not find work because you may have said / done the "wrong thing" 20 years ago?
Are we talking about what would happen if Erdogan or Bernie Sanders got elected?
And one day you lose your job, or your hobbies are banned, or your kid's school closes down, or hospitals in your community get de-funded, or public employees are purged, or basic commodities are taxed to the hilt, or certain individuals start getting wealthier beyond imagination because of their connections to powers to be, or some other thing because the "gubment" feels like it...
What do you do then?
What do you do when your cool friends get arrested for no reason?
What happens when you can not find work because you may have said / done the "wrong thing" 20 years ago?
I would leave Turkey and get to another country while I could.
Good thing Elon hawking those solar panels and ****. They barely smoke at all when they're working right.
Originally Posted by Erat
I also know that all i have are my unalienable rights. Everything else i MUST work for.
Protesting in the streets is not work.
Your inalienable rights are only enumerated by a piece of paper. Someone has to enforce that. In the words of every far-right commenter on the internet: "WAKE UP AMERICA!!!"
Seriously though, where my freedom from religious imposition?
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
It is if you're getting paid to do it.
I'd like to see the budget numbers on that. How much does it pay? $10 a protest per person? Plus getting the graphics department to come up with all those catchy slogans and drawing all the art on signs... sounds lucrative!
I'd like to see the budget numbers on that. How much does it pay? $10 a protest per person? Plus getting the graphics department to come up with all those catchy slogans and drawing all the art on signs... sounds lucrative!
Rather than posting specific links and being accused of bias, just google "paid protester" and browse the results.
I've seen estimates ranging from $8.50 an hour to $5k a month. In particular, grant-making organizations founded and funded by George Soros seem to be especially active in hiring protesters.
Rather than posting specific links and being accused of bias, just google "paid protester" and browse the results.
I've seen estimates ranging from $8.50 an hour to $5k a month. In particular, grant-making organizations founded and funded by George Soros seem to be especially active in hiring protesters.
I guess my google is the liberal version. Nothing on the first page or two suggests this is real in any significant volume. So I tried duckduckgo because that's Joe-approved. Same problem.
So then I used my personal experience. I have lived in and outside of DC for almost 13 years and attended plenty of mass gatherings for support or against various people and causes. So have many of my friends and acquaintances. Not one of us has been paid a dime or heard of anyone that has been paid. Sure there are groups handing out signs for people that have already decided to show up purely to voice their opinion (not for money).
So while I can't personally verify that paid protesters and dark matter and god do not exist, I can verify that there are lots of normal people with jobs who attend protests. Just go to one and see for yourself. They're not professional protesters, they're regular people with backpacks full of **** for their kids and too much sunscreen and whatever. Remember these protests are on weekends or people just don't work one day to go. Because they have strongly held beliefs.
Regardless of the existence of paid protesters, private groups and individuals regularly fund all sorts of political action. For example, it's very easy to look up how much the NRA spends on swaying people politically. Seems a weird and perhaps ineffective way to effect legislation change by paying someone to yell from a crowd for a couple hours.