Turbo Diesel?

I don't have any children myself so I'm a little disconnected from what goes on with kids these days... Not too long ago I learned at kids sporting events we don't keep score anymore?? That's big time fail. God forbid we prep these kids for the REAL world where not everyone gets handed everything on a silver ------- platter. Those are the retarded losers that end up at these occupy "protests" instead of working to get a real job and EARN what you have.



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I was in a YMCA baseball "league" when I was like 7 or 8, I went to like 3 practices and one game, I got a trophy. Around the same time when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade my teacher told us that our grade on home work didn't matter, it was the fact that we tried that counted for points, and I knew it was bullsh!t back then. There are kids that bought the participation grade BS, and then there are kids who did a mental face palm upon hearing about it. There where also participation points and points for showing up in some college classes I attended.

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Kids that suck should be encouraged to get better. If you tell them they are already "perfect how they are" they will never strive to get better. You suck at running, you tell them they suck at running and give them advice on how to do better. You suck at math, you fail until you understand. I'm lucky and went to a very good public school where not everyone got a trophy.

Related to your tangent:

I was in a college class with a prof. Two quarters, aced his classes while almost never attending (Only showed up for tests).

Third quarter, he instituted an attendance policy in all his classes that was a ridiculous amount of the grade. I mentally :facepalm:ed at that, since he was aiming it at one student that was acing his classes while almost never attending. Academia is absolutely ridiculous and has little to no basis in the real world.

Seriously, his grading was so ridiculous that you'd get a C- if you showed up to every class and just turned in a blank sheet of paper for every assignment/test/exam. Think about how ridiculous of a grading system that is for a second.

Hey, that's realistic. A lot of people get paid just to show up to work.

I'm with you, though. I was lucky enough to have gone to a pretty good public school. I never realized how good it was until I went to college and saw how poorly everyone else was prepared.

I also had a professor that counted a good amount toward being in class every day. It was a bonus, but it was still like 10 points added to your overall grade. I had something like a 98 in the class before the points anyway and really only took the class because I wanted something easy with all of my real classes.

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You can't report ---- like that?

Brain development studies have been done that show praising effort in young children can improve achievent (and GPA) in later life where praising success can hinder it.

An example would be the smart young kid who gets straight As without hard work all the time but is only commended for the end result finally reaching a phase of life where school challenges him and finding out he can no longer cruise through school and his grades go to ---- because he did not learn how to apply effort to his learning.

The difference is that the child praised for effort sees errors as an opportunity to apply more effort (which they learned at a young age) rather than seeing errors as personal failure.

I may have communicated this poorly but you get the idea.

So what will you do with your kids Y8s?

I assume this works, but there are several mistakes I've made in my life which make me uncomfortable to think about today because the consequences were so ugly...I'll never make those mistakes again. A kid has to learn that consequences happen at some points, even if its unfair or ugly.

Dats da truf, Truf.

Another thing I don't like, classes that have NOT A DAMN THING to do with your major in college. I'm paying THEM to let me take classes to get a degree, so heres a novel idea, why not let me take classes that will let me get my degree faster and on less cash? I'll bet more people would go to school and student loans wouldn't be (as) necessary in order to get pay for school.

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I graduated from the University of Florida without ever buying a textbook or coursepack. I am the 1%.

3 hours studying for a test? lul really that's all? Must be easy tests.

Anyways not everyone can be winners. Effort counts for something to me, but not points towards a test. It might count towards a second chance after a failed test. People who are failing and lack motivation need someone to force them to do it, and will be there to help them. (parents?)

I see too many kids these days who skate by because no one wants to put the effort into actually helping them, and if they have kids that fail it looks bad on them. Can't totally blame the teachers, when they have a couple hundred kids going through their classes they can't help everyone. Plus parents these days think it's 100% on the school to make these kids geniuses.

No, you just majored in humanities then.

FTFY

This is why degrees really mean nothing, and everything. Nothing because just about everyone has one, and they are easy to get. Everything because if you don't have one you are not even considered.

School is a scam.

I've self taught myself more since I've been out of school than I could have ever learned from any teacher.

When I was younger I was lucky enough to be part of a private "Lutheran" school. As I got older I realized I didnt belong and left after the start of the 7th grade. I went into our public schools and felt like I was f'ing born again! I did OK throughout school, but struggled as well. If it was something I was genuinely interested in then I did well (marine biology, chemistry, history, business, computer art, etc.). Math and Spanish were my weakest subjects by far. Now, I use math on a daily basis and speak Portuguese to our guys on the field (not Spanish but same idea). Self taught because I needed to in order to keep making money.

There's an idea. Lets try relating money to learning at a younger age. Something tells me it would work a little better than force feeding the ---- like they do.

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Naw, it just means that Pushy majored in a humanities fluff subject, or at least I'd lay money on it.

I cannot imagine a hard science major without a textbook, but humanities? Sure, no problem.

Meh maybe, but that is why I just changed the quote to 75%.

I have a BS in journalism (how fitting) and a minor in history.

I also have no debt and plenty of job prospects in fields unrelated to my undergraduate study.

Ah, true. I will guarentee you, however, that it is not the case for a hard science or engineering degree that "everyone has one" or that they are easy to get.

Awesome to hear about no debt and job prospects, Pushy. But I did call the area in which you majored in.

Hey bro, I jelly about no debt. Cut me a break :(

how did you do that? ----

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How much did your parents help out?

This may be true but I still disagree. I believe in positive reinforcement when someone is doing a good job, but man, when they're sucking just to say "oh, you're special blah blah blah" is BS.. If one of my employees isn't doing well, which happens frequently I'll coach them in a very positive way, but I don't say "we're all winners even though your scorecard says you're the shittiest employee I have.." When they've improved, which most of the time they do, I'll make sure to go out of my way and point it out to them, my team, and the department head.

Edit: Oh, and "time out" in a room with a effing computer, an ipad, ipod, cell phone, and tv is a Huge fail. If I did something wrong and broke the rules my father got the BELT out and administered punishment. You bet your ass that straightened me up.

Funny enough, I also think everyone should get arrested at least once. Those who have some resemblance of brain matter in their skull, that'll knock their ---- straight. I messed up when I was 21 and got hooked up, bet your ass I straightened my ---- up.

I can certainly remember what it was like the first year of college, suddenly coming to the realization that "hey, I'm surrounded by a bunch of other smart people and I actually have to work to get decent grades."

To an extent, I suppose this sort of thing is inevitable. It's not really practical at the level of a general K-12 school environment to tailor curriculum and workload to individual students. It is inevitable that lessons / homework / etc must be developed based on a sort of "average", which will of course leave a minority of students at the left end of the curve frustrated and bewildered, and those at the right end bored and alienated.



Yes, it's not uncommon for those who return to school in their 30s to have difficulty re-acclimating to efficient study habits.

you disagree with scientific studies. noted.

remember this is for developing children, not for high schoolers or middle aged adults. I'm talking less than 5 years old. your employees brains are done developing.

I'm saying that when your kid is trying to learn how to read and not getting it, you tell them they worked hard. and then when they DO get it and start reading, you praise the effort they put into it.

then when this same kid is old enough to be your employee (for example), they will understand that success is important, but busting their asses to accomplish a task is also important.

I was never belted or arrested. I guess I'm not a whole person.

I've never even been pulled over. Suck it. :fawk:

I guess it's ok for kids under 5, but I still think some (when done at an older age) of this contributes to people settling on passing grades, happened to me. I'm smart, but I was too lazy to study. I remember other students talking about how long they studied, compared to the >45 minutes I would study (I'm being really generous with that time frame), and we'd end up with the same grade. I'm sure I would have done better in Spanish had I studied, maybe even math too.

The problem is, kids are getting trophies for not doing ----. Not everyone is a winner. BUT most people can be pretty decent at something if they try hard. Just because your son sucks at basketball doesn't mean he can't play it for fun, or heck maybe even be on a crappy team. But he shouldn't get a trophy or the same treatment as those who won, just for participating. This brings down the kids who tried hard and actually had some talent.

And if anything we need to be pushing those kids more. Discriminating against kids that are really smart and talented is worse IMO. Sure most of the smart kids will get by just fine because, well, they are smart. But if we stop giving the smart kids attention because they are "doing well", then we have failed. That is why parenting is so important, and why I am waiting until I'm in my 30s to have kids. I want to be able to focus on them. You can't rely on others to motivate and teach your kids. That would be dumb. But the bad parents do. And then complain when their kids aren't getting trophies.

Damnit Joe!!!! :vash: :vash: :vash: :vash: Don't let me know about this stuff! I'm already "meh" at going back to work on a new degree.

It was intended to be a joke, Dr. Cooper. I was poking fun at the fact that the woman in he picture, who we are to assume from context is a typical college student, appears instead to be in her 30s. This plays on the stereotype that women, as a whole, prefer to appear younger than they actually are and will, if asked, tend to understate their true age, along with the resultant common social convention that it is considered insulting to a woman when another person (most commonly, though not exclusively, a man) judges her age to be greater than (or even equal to) her actual age.

The attached commentary about study habits served no purpose other than to create an environment in which the age joke could be inserted in an appropriate context and with some degree of subtlety.

Lulz, so was my response. But props for a Perez-worthy rebuttal!

Back on topic:

lol, apes.

Jesus Christ, and people think Miami is bad.

I'm going assume you've seen the videos of what happens when Russian soldiers go on missions into the Caucasus mountains.

yeah, they get their heads cut off.
there is no way in hell I could do Russian army. US army? No problem. Russian? yeah, I'll pass.

Iunno, crazy drivers or Will Smith?

I've done a lot of research on Russian prisons. Are you familiar with the thief-in-the-law culture?

Why don't you explain it to us, Push?

Eh, not much. The tattoos are like it's own language. I watched Eastern Promises, does that count?

Anyways, pictars. From South Ossetia. With love.
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Now those guys look like professional warriors. Would not trust 'em.

Pusha, do you own a track suit like the one in the 1st pic?

you tell me

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lol! I can confirm, that is Jake's living room.

Yours is less slovak.

funny, because I bought it in Bulgaria.

I call bullspit
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I spent three days in Plovdiv. Fag.

lol look at this pic I found of Gearhead

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TF2 has gotten so much nicer looking

Do we have a TF2 contingent here on MT.net?

My first thought was looks like Miami rush hour on US1

I was at Panera this weekend and was sitting near a group of students. I overheard one girl who ran into some guy who showed up say she's been there 7 hours studying for a math test. With the amount of coversation going on the entire time me and my wife were present, I doubt they studied more than 30 minutes.

It boggles my mind that people think they are more efficient to study/work in an enviornment full of distractions.

Shuiend, Rick, Joe and myself all play.

Just watched the video, I need a better video card :(

TF2 = Team Fortress 2?

Circle-strafe, bitches.