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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1232680)
Saw this last weekend up in the 'burbs:
Maybe I'm naive, but this seems like the sort of concept for which a discrete sign ought not to be necessary. |
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1232680)
Saw this last weekend up in the 'burbs:
[IMG]https://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=140047&stc=1&d=1432049 227[IMG] Maybe I'm naive, but this seems like the sort of concept for which a discrete sign ought not to be necessary. But our signs: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1432059028 |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1232279)
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^^ can't slip anything past you. ;)
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Originally Posted by Erat
(Post 1232775)
Is it for turning on red? We can turn on red here, not sure about New York.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1432061631 New York State, by comparison, follows the rest of the country and generally permits right turns on red unless otherwise indicated. And when so prohibited, this is indicated either with a "No Turn On Red" sign similar to the one you posted, or a red arrow indication on the stoplight. Which is why that sign seems so damned odd to me.
Originally Posted by xturner
(Post 1232737)
C'mon - it's Newburgh. People need reminders when they fear for their lives.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1432061631 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1432061631 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1432061631 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1432061631 https://media2.wnyc.org/i/1500/1125/l/80/1/LanderSt.jpg http://www.wnyc.org/i/raw/1/collapsed.jpg http://bierwax.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/dsc_0333.jpg |
Originally Posted by Erat
(Post 1232775)
Is it for turning on red? We can turn on red here, not sure about New York.
But our signs: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1432059028 |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1232788)
Ok, seriously- how the hell did you know that I took that photo in Newburgh?
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1232788)
Right turns on red are prohibited in New York City, except in a few specific locations where this sign exists:
[IMG]https://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=140066&dateline=143206 1631[IMG] New York State, by comparison, follows the rest of the country and generally permits right turns on red unless otherwise indicated. And when so prohibited, this is indicated either with a "No Turn On Red" sign similar to the one you posted, or a red arrow indication on the stoplight. Which is why that sign seems so damned odd to me. Ok, seriously- how the hell did you know that I took that photo in Newburgh? (pictures of the nice parts of Detroit) http://transportation.ky.gov/Congest...-left-turn.bmp In the places we don't have these ^ we just have the flashing red light "left turn lane"; Make your turn when traffic is cleared. |
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We have flashing yellow arrows here, with no signs explaining WTF to do.
I've started seeing them in the developing suburbs near KC, they get signs. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1432069172 Yield on green is too hard for people to comprehend? |
I'm assuming because if it's green people will be charging out into oncoming traffic thinking that green means all clear. When they have to yield to oncoming traffic.
It's better than having to sit and wait for your turn once every 3 "turns". That's lame. http://www.petaluma360.com/csp/media...YPE=image/jpeg |
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Yeah, they still don't trust people to not pull out in front of people with the flashing yellow at all the corners that really need it though, or they should at lest let them flash yellow after 8PM or so.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1432070183 |
The fact that these signs exist clearly means that the drivers license test needs to be made harder...much harder.
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Originally Posted by Erat
(Post 1232823)
Can NY / the rest of the country turn right on red? Specifically where there aren't boulevard turns.
Your Michigan-left is about as perverse and strange as the Jersey-left (aka jughandle) which, fortunately, is being phased out in new construction. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1432081345 |
Originally Posted by olderguy
(Post 1232803)
EVERYBODY knows Franks Pizza;)
My wife's old boss used to live not too far from there - we went down Plank on the way from 84. I had to make an emergency parts run to Schmidt's in downtown Newburgh when our UV system shit the bed last spring, drove through that area just to look around again before heading home. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1232896)
In the vast majority of the US, it's permissible to make a right turn against a red light under all conditions, and a left turn against a red light if turning from a one-way street onto another one-way street.
Your Michigan-left is about as perverse and strange as the Jersey-left (aka jughandle) which, fortunately, is being phased out in new construction. |
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Originally Posted by xturner
(Post 1232913)
Did NYC change the law to make right-on-red legal? It used to be illegal - there was even a local nickname for getting clipped by out-of-staters, something like a "Jersey Kneecapping."
Actual, un-retouched photo of New Jersey: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1432087215 |
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Since I'm on my phone and don't want to zoom all around reading the discussion on 'right on red' - I think of a lot of such intersections have either pedestrian right-of-way in mind or bad blind spots for traffic on one-way streets in mind.....at least that's been my physical observations at such intersections.
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