[HOW TO] VSS from ABS sensor on NA/NB

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Old 12-12-2022 | 05:55 AM
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Default [HOW TO] VSS from ABS sensor on NA/NB

I got this working and would like to share with how to connect a stock ABS sensor to be used as a Vehicle Speed Sensor

Requirements:
1. Car without ABS or with a broken one - You will be taking the sensor away from ABS (there are ways to share it, but i do not know how)
2. Sensor mounting (this can be done by swapping a hub assembly from a car that came with ABS)
3. Haltech ECU


Step 1: Mount the thing.
If a car never came with ABS, it will still have holes provisioned in the chassis for the stock sensor. In my case I have swapped a 1.8 diff and half shafts. One of the hubs had holes and the ring for ABS sensor. Got a sensor from a junker and used 3 bolts in stock locations to secure it. There's a hole in the trunk that the sensor wiring can plug into.

Step 2: Wiring it
This is a weird one but one cable goes to ground and another one to SP* input. That's because the sensor generates it's own voltage spikes that ECU can read.

Step 3: Configuring it
- Enable Vehicle Speed Sensor in the Sensors tab
- In Vehicle Speed tab select which wheel you mounted the sensor on
- In the wiring tab, assing your SP* pin (SP1, SP2, etc)
- Unde wiring for it:
  • Sensor Type: Digital - Frequency (no choise)
  • Edge Select: Rising
  • Sensor Type: Reluctor
  • Frequency Time Constant: 1ms


Step 4: Calibration
Easier with a passenger. In the Vehicle Speed tab, set your calibration speed and drive at that speed for a few seconds before pressing "Calibrate"

Fun stuff:

Gear detection
Under Transmission -> Functions, there's a Gear Ratio, enable it.
To calibrate IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AT 1000RPM, just the exacttly the same RPM for all gear calibrations
If on driven wheels you can lift up the rear and essentially idle the car at each gear before hitting "Calibrate"
If on front wheels, you can drive the car at the exact same RPM in differnet gears

Launch Control
Vehicle Functions -> Motorsport, Lunch Control
Clutch switch on NA's can be weird but you can use the VSS to enable Launch Control when car is stationery

Idle Control
Engine Functions -> Controller, there's "Max Vehicle Speed"
Keeps the idle a bit higher than usual until car becomes stationery, helps preventing idle dips stalling the car

Boost by gear
I do not have this figured out yet but it would probably go like this:
Engine Functions -> Boost control, enable
Mode: Closed Loop
Boost Control -> Closed Loop Target Pressure, edit table axis
Add another axis "Gear"
Insert Value: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, (6)
Edit the boost max boost pressure for each gear in each RPM
Old 12-13-2022 | 07:16 AM
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I've shared a working NB ABS signal by tee'ing into the ABS sensor signal wire and putting straight into an SPI on the Haltech. Left the ABS ground wire alone.

I had my reservations on doing this for safety. Others on Miata turbo have tee'd other systems into the NB ABS in this manner. It does seem to work and I'll be setting up traction control tee'ing into 2 front ABS sensors giving front axle speed and also using the drivetrain sensor giving rear axle speed. You need average speed across the front axle as one senor only causes a measurable difference when turning. The TC ends up more sensitive turning in one direction if only using one from sensor.

I've also got an RX7 yaw and lateral G sensor which I'll use with the TC strategy.

Boost by gear - I run quite a complex boost curve to maintain a flat torque curve. I make boost by gear corrections as a percentage of the boost target curve so that the flat torque curve is maintained to target best traction through the rpm range.
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