Solid lifters
#1
Solid lifters
Hi all! Hopefully I'm in the right place. I'm in search of solid lifters. Was searching in google for lifters and found that Miata uses them. They also looked like they would fit. Has anyone the diameter of the lifter and other measurements. I found the info here: Miata Engine History and Interchangability Guide
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#10
I wouldn't bother with solid lifters in a boosted car with stock revs if there's other places to improve. You'll get a better return on your dough invested elsewhere. It's different when you're bound to a set of rules, but like hustler points out HLAs are just easy. And if you do go solid, definitely go shim-under-bucket to get the max. benefit.1
#16
MiataRoadster...STAY TUNED
he sells the lifter
i used supertech lash caps, i belive we have 6mm stems
you should not have to mess with your valve lash on a solid lifter head, they are non ajustable, once its set it shouldnt change unless something is wearing.
as far as the benifits
youll be able to run more aggressive cams, with steeper ramp rates
and the shim under bucket will let you run higher lift.
increased rpm potential. not only because of the direct contact, but because of the amount of weight reduction over a hydro lifter.
bigger cams and more rpm = more VE = more power
if your looking for stock 99-00 solid lifters i have a set from my head.
i had to convert due to me running integral R3 intake and R1 exhaust, up to 9000rpm
look at the difference in base circle diameter on my integrals vs the stock 99 cams
imagine how much faster that opens the valve, the ramps are very very steep, and the peaks are more flat for the extended duration. you can kinda get an idea of why solid lifter,shim under bucket is needed. honestly i would convert on any engine running a set of aftermarket cams, shaving weight off the valve train is worth alot, it left you run lighter spring pressures before valve float, and helps with high rpm,
he sells the lifter
i used supertech lash caps, i belive we have 6mm stems
you should not have to mess with your valve lash on a solid lifter head, they are non ajustable, once its set it shouldnt change unless something is wearing.
as far as the benifits
youll be able to run more aggressive cams, with steeper ramp rates
and the shim under bucket will let you run higher lift.
increased rpm potential. not only because of the direct contact, but because of the amount of weight reduction over a hydro lifter.
bigger cams and more rpm = more VE = more power
if your looking for stock 99-00 solid lifters i have a set from my head.
i had to convert due to me running integral R3 intake and R1 exhaust, up to 9000rpm
look at the difference in base circle diameter on my integrals vs the stock 99 cams
imagine how much faster that opens the valve, the ramps are very very steep, and the peaks are more flat for the extended duration. you can kinda get an idea of why solid lifter,shim under bucket is needed. honestly i would convert on any engine running a set of aftermarket cams, shaving weight off the valve train is worth alot, it left you run lighter spring pressures before valve float, and helps with high rpm,
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How to fix lifter noise with HLA:
Change oil type
How to fix lifter noise with solid lifters:
remove valve cover
pull cam gears
check cam cap torque
measure and record lash on all 16-valves
remove cas and cams
pull lifters and inventory sizes
find a GF with an MS in mathematics to rearrange shims for you
order expensive shims on interwebz
wait 1-week
install shims and lifters
install cams
install cam gears
install CAS
set mechanical timing
bolt valve cover
start the car and pray to Satan that you did it right
Yeah, solid lifters are so much easier when they make noise.
Change oil type
How to fix lifter noise with solid lifters:
remove valve cover
pull cam gears
check cam cap torque
measure and record lash on all 16-valves
remove cas and cams
pull lifters and inventory sizes
find a GF with an MS in mathematics to rearrange shims for you
order expensive shims on interwebz
wait 1-week
install shims and lifters
install cams
install cam gears
install CAS
set mechanical timing
bolt valve cover
start the car and pray to Satan that you did it right
Yeah, solid lifters are so much easier when they make noise.
#19
How to fix lifter noise with HLA:
Change oil type
How to fix lifter noise with solid lifters:
remove valve cover
pull cam gears
check cam cap torque
measure and record lash on all 16-valves
remove cas and cams
pull lifters and inventory sizes
find a GF with an MS in mathematics to rearrange shims for you
order expensive shims on interwebz
wait 1-week
install shims and lifters
install cams
install cam gears
install CAS
set mechanical timing
bolt valve cover
start the car and pray to Satan that you did it right
Yeah, solid lifters are so much easier when they make noise.
Change oil type
How to fix lifter noise with solid lifters:
remove valve cover
pull cam gears
check cam cap torque
measure and record lash on all 16-valves
remove cas and cams
pull lifters and inventory sizes
find a GF with an MS in mathematics to rearrange shims for you
order expensive shims on interwebz
wait 1-week
install shims and lifters
install cams
install cam gears
install CAS
set mechanical timing
bolt valve cover
start the car and pray to Satan that you did it right
Yeah, solid lifters are so much easier when they make noise.
I tried like 6X different blends in her n/a, yet every ******* time I pull into paddock with that car everyone looks to see who the douche is with rod knock. It is fine at street loads/temps. HLAs don't belong in men's track cars, period.
One of my underpaid minions will perform the needed steps to adjust lash on my solids, and I will be deified by those who I choose to subjugate in competition.
#20
I talked to Integral about the same thing. I was curious about the lifters and going with better cams and such. He said Miata HLAs are good to like 8-9000rpm with stiffer springs and the solid don't yield any better results with the same cams. Unless you're going all out race with really high revs, you probably just need new HLAs. If you're getting new cams, then solid may also be useful if you match them correctly. Solid just isn't worth the hassle for most people (like me). I plan on sticking with my HLAs and upgrading to stage 2 intake and stage 1 exhaust cams from Integral.