So she seems...faster without the AC/PS
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So she seems...faster without the AC/PS
I took out the AC/PS today...I just ******* cut the hardlines and looped them...thats what it look liked FM did......
The car feels much more responsive top end...I'm thinking one of the pulleys might have been sticking or something because it revs much more freely...
PS isn't near as bad as I thought...the car will lock the front tires up though now..? wtf?! used not to do that.
Anybody else feel the gain or is it just a placebo effect?
The car feels much more responsive top end...I'm thinking one of the pulleys might have been sticking or something because it revs much more freely...
PS isn't near as bad as I thought...the car will lock the front tires up though now..? wtf?! used not to do that.
Anybody else feel the gain or is it just a placebo effect?
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thought so...close to 80lbs worth of **** out of the car today total...might account for something.
could the pully actually have been sticking or belt slipping causing it to not feel right?
or maybe it just cold as ***** and the engine really liked it...who knows.
could the pully actually have been sticking or belt slipping causing it to not feel right?
or maybe it just cold as ***** and the engine really liked it...who knows.
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Not sure, i think 100lbs of added lightness can generally be converted to .1 second added to your 1/4 miles time. Someone told me that and if it is the case then it would make sense for it to feel more nimble on the road.
As for the pully sticking I don't know, if the belt was slipping it would only affect the effectiveness of the pump/compressor. Or i'm wrong.
As for the pully sticking I don't know, if the belt was slipping it would only affect the effectiveness of the pump/compressor. Or i'm wrong.
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How does it feel not having the PS assist? I'd like to take my PS crap out and loop the lines, I just don't want to take it out and end up putting it back in.
I drove it without the belt for a while and that sucked dick. I figure if it was half as much pressure as just removing the pump i could handle it.
I drove it without the belt for a while and that sucked dick. I figure if it was half as much pressure as just removing the pump i could handle it.
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its a little easier than just removing the belt...
I think I'm going to do it the way FM depowers and that might make it even smoother.
Its hard at full stop, once moving even a TINY bit it gets MUCH easier.
At speed it just seems to respond and be much crisper than it was before...more connected?
I think I'm going to do it the way FM depowers and that might make it even smoother.
Its hard at full stop, once moving even a TINY bit it gets MUCH easier.
At speed it just seems to respond and be much crisper than it was before...more connected?
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How does it feel not having the PS assist? I'd like to take my PS crap out and loop the lines, I just don't want to take it out and end up putting it back in.
I drove it without the belt for a while and that sucked dick. I figure if it was half as much pressure as just removing the pump i could handle it.
I drove it without the belt for a while and that sucked dick. I figure if it was half as much pressure as just removing the pump i could handle it.
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I looped the lines (as if you couldnt tell from my pics tonight) and with the pump off and fluid drained and replaced with a light motor oil, it feels pretty good. No problems once im moving a little bit, but at a stop its a pain to turn the tires. Also i dont know what effect the motor oil will have on the rack, so i dont recommend it.
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hmmm,
by just looping the lines I SHOULD feel some notchiness, not exactly that but I'm out of other words lol.
The wheel pushes now when the front tires reach their limit and start to skid...the feedback is AMAZING compared to PS...its a bitch at stop, but I'm getting used to rolling then moving forward..I really like it.
by just looping the lines I SHOULD feel some notchiness, not exactly that but I'm out of other words lol.
The wheel pushes now when the front tires reach their limit and start to skid...the feedback is AMAZING compared to PS...its a bitch at stop, but I'm getting used to rolling then moving forward..I really like it.
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I think its a placebo but I totally felt a difference when I dropped the ac, and the ps seems to have made everything feel more connected. every bit of weight on these cars is so important...
I thought it was bs when everyone was saying the feeling this and the blah blah m.net chatter. but I totally know what they are talking about now. it really feels different, and the only word I have for it is connected.
Though I did have to get a bigger steering wheel. my 300mm was busting up my bad shoulder, the 350mm seems much easier on the ol' bones.
I thought it was bs when everyone was saying the feeling this and the blah blah m.net chatter. but I totally know what they are talking about now. it really feels different, and the only word I have for it is connected.
Though I did have to get a bigger steering wheel. my 300mm was busting up my bad shoulder, the 350mm seems much easier on the ol' bones.
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I took mine off and liked it. I could definetly tell the difference between just taking the belt off and looping the lines. but it was harder to tell the difference between looping and taking the seal out as FM describes. I've also got 225 wide tires to turn, which doesn't make it any easier
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^ thats what I was wondering, when I get bigger tires is it going to be a bitch.
I came back to school and took it for a mountain run...with out PS this thing is like a such a beautiful handling car...I can feel the road...it tells me when it doesn't want to grip...I dunno, I thought stock was great, this is amazing.
I came back to school and took it for a mountain run...with out PS this thing is like a such a beautiful handling car...I can feel the road...it tells me when it doesn't want to grip...I dunno, I thought stock was great, this is amazing.