New motor with not start
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New motor with not start
After about 4 hours of trouble shooting im lost.
Its a 90 miata that i just rebuild a new motor and dropped it in.
I have compression, i have fuel, i have spark, i have air...... so very lost
It will just sit there and crank not even a shudder or attempt to fire.
Every wire i can find is plugged up. I only have one ground strap on the motor (friend said his 350 wouldn't start until he added a ground strap.)
I did the COP but the wiring matches the thread and all the coil packs spark to the block so im guessing that means the coils work.
i have no idea why i don't get anything just cranking.
im about 99% sure the timing is right i used the FSM to set the timming.
ONLY odd thing at the moment is i can't get a timing light to work. i jumped a spark plug wire off the cly 1 into the block and i can only get the timing light to blink once when you start cranking then once when you stop cranking but the plug is still firing.
Its a 90 miata that i just rebuild a new motor and dropped it in.
I have compression, i have fuel, i have spark, i have air...... so very lost
It will just sit there and crank not even a shudder or attempt to fire.
Every wire i can find is plugged up. I only have one ground strap on the motor (friend said his 350 wouldn't start until he added a ground strap.)
I did the COP but the wiring matches the thread and all the coil packs spark to the block so im guessing that means the coils work.
i have no idea why i don't get anything just cranking.
im about 99% sure the timing is right i used the FSM to set the timming.
ONLY odd thing at the moment is i can't get a timing light to work. i jumped a spark plug wire off the cly 1 into the block and i can only get the timing light to blink once when you start cranking then once when you stop cranking but the plug is still firing.
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Pictures of valve cover off with your crank at TDC and the cam gears in the correct position so we can verify that your timing is correct.
Also what EMS are you using? Is it possible that settings in there are wrong if you are not on a stock ecu?
Also what EMS are you using? Is it possible that settings in there are wrong if you are not on a stock ecu?
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heck ya man PMin you my number taking today off work to get my truck fix (go figure it broke lastnight too) then i should be working on the miata by 2pm and most of the evening.
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Okay well after a day or working on it i think i kinda made progress.
swapped back to OEM ignition stuff still doesn't start.
checked timing belt and its right at TDC the intake and exaust cam marks are vertical and the ones that point down and to the inside are lined up dead on with those bends in the backing plate and the letter match.
so Physical timing is right.
As far as cam angle i have no idea i just put it half way and figured its close enough to get a studder.
DEF have fuel i cam smell it out the back and it doesnt start on starting fluid either.
so i think i can pretty well say its spark
i have spark on all 4 cyl when i have the spark plug wire out of the block. but the timming light doesn't work. IF it does it flashes once when i start cranking then never again. i tried the timming light on my truck works fine.
so im kinda at the point that i think i have super week spark..... not sure why i have week spark on the COPs and on OEM set up.
any thoughts?
Block is DEF grounded check and i get a good ground signal touching the valve cover to any unpainted surface.
swapped back to OEM ignition stuff still doesn't start.
checked timing belt and its right at TDC the intake and exaust cam marks are vertical and the ones that point down and to the inside are lined up dead on with those bends in the backing plate and the letter match.
so Physical timing is right.
As far as cam angle i have no idea i just put it half way and figured its close enough to get a studder.
DEF have fuel i cam smell it out the back and it doesnt start on starting fluid either.
so i think i can pretty well say its spark
i have spark on all 4 cyl when i have the spark plug wire out of the block. but the timming light doesn't work. IF it does it flashes once when i start cranking then never again. i tried the timming light on my truck works fine.
so im kinda at the point that i think i have super week spark..... not sure why i have week spark on the COPs and on OEM set up.
any thoughts?
Block is DEF grounded check and i get a good ground signal touching the valve cover to any unpainted surface.