miataturbo.net-like debauchery thread (about the ND or something)
#41
I did some research the other day on the NC, and I didn't know that it had aluminum A arms up front and aluminum knuckles in the rear. The multi-link are all tubular links, too.
A bunch of people were shitting on the idea that the ND could lose a not insignificant amount of weight over the NC, and Emilio touched on it: the ND isn't being built from the ground up as a shared platform for a much bigger car. I remain hopeful for the best for a 2200ish curb. I mean, my 1994 Miata had a curb of 2290lbs and my 2012 Mazda2 has a curb of 2306lbs; 2200-2300lbs should be doable.
A bunch of people were shitting on the idea that the ND could lose a not insignificant amount of weight over the NC, and Emilio touched on it: the ND isn't being built from the ground up as a shared platform for a much bigger car. I remain hopeful for the best for a 2200ish curb. I mean, my 1994 Miata had a curb of 2290lbs and my 2012 Mazda2 has a curb of 2306lbs; 2200-2300lbs should be doable.
#42
That header is actually pretty badass. It's a tuned 4-2-1 dealie that, due to the additional scavenging it provides, allowed the compression ratio of that engine in the Mazda 3 to be bumped from 12:1 to 13:1 and still only need 87 octane.
It might look odd with the curlicues it makes, but that header works really well.
It might look odd with the curlicues it makes, but that header works really well.
Not to say that "Mazda knows best", but when the compromise have less margins and needs better control, running things with a half-assed tune will work less well (a low CR BP can survive a lot in comparison).
Whats the aftermarket for the current Mazda3/6 engines (asking without even searching...)?
Imagine when Mazda gets their 18:1 SkyActiv2 engines out there (but that's several years after the ND), things will behave very differently and a BP will be very old-school.
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Honestly with the NC dropping in price after the ND release, i think i'd go with the NC > s2k and modify the NC a bit. Those 2.5 swaps are looking tasty.
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After autocrossing a C6 Z06 I had the same revelation; of all the car's I've driven that one felt the most like a bigger miata - very similar in responsiveness, rotation, turn-in manners... I was pretty surprised.
Lotus Elise, NC, s2k, etc... all the stuff people 'think' would be similar to a NA/NB feel and behave distinctly non-miata.
-Ryan
#50
I wouldn't get too upset about electric steering. The first use of electric steering was on the Suzuki Cappuccino and it worked well there. At the cost of a little more output in the alternator that might weigh a pound more, the power steering hydraulic pump and lines could be removed, so it was a legitimate weight savings.
#52
+1
After autocrossing a C6 Z06 I had the same revelation; of all the car's I've driven that one felt the most like a bigger miata - very similar in responsiveness, rotation, turn-in manners... I was pretty surprised.
Lotus Elise, NC, s2k, etc... all the stuff people 'think' would be similar to a NA/NB feel and behave distinctly non-miata.
-Ryan
After autocrossing a C6 Z06 I had the same revelation; of all the car's I've driven that one felt the most like a bigger miata - very similar in responsiveness, rotation, turn-in manners... I was pretty surprised.
Lotus Elise, NC, s2k, etc... all the stuff people 'think' would be similar to a NA/NB feel and behave distinctly non-miata.
-Ryan
#54
Current speculation is saying that the ND reveal is going to be at Mazda's at Mazdaspeed Speedway Laguna Seca, and there's a nonzero chance Mazda will pull what they did for the Mazda6 by selling it in January 2015 as a 2016 model.
There's some documentation talking about delivering two new Skyactiv models to market before March 31, 2015. The ND could fit the bill.
There's some documentation talking about delivering two new Skyactiv models to market before March 31, 2015. The ND could fit the bill.
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