Engine swap - H22a
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Engine swap - H22a
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I've searched on forums and did not find anything about it, so I have a question to people on miataturbo.net.
Is it possible to put in a H22a engine from a prelude into a miata and the VTEC will work? also is it possible to put a 2.4l dodge stratus engine in the miata? And if yes how difficult is it and how expensive with out the price of the engine?
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I've searched on forums and did not find anything about it, so I have a question to people on miataturbo.net.
Is it possible to put in a H22a engine from a prelude into a miata and the VTEC will work? also is it possible to put a 2.4l dodge stratus engine in the miata? And if yes how difficult is it and how expensive with out the price of the engine?
Thanks everybody
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I'm doing a research if it is possible, how much money will it cost and is it very hard. i'm buying a miata in may/june '06.
I would also want to know which is cheaper and would be capable of more power:
a)1.8l miata engine forged pistons and rods (stock crankshaft)
b)2.4l straus/ srt4 (stock srt-4 internals)
c)2.2l prelude vtec(forged pistons, rods)
It will be turboed in the future.
I have money for the car at the moment and plan to put the bigger or build the 1.8l engine in the winter 06/07
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I would also want to know which is cheaper and would be capable of more power:
a)1.8l miata engine forged pistons and rods (stock crankshaft)
b)2.4l straus/ srt4 (stock srt-4 internals)
c)2.2l prelude vtec(forged pistons, rods)
It will be turboed in the future.
I have money for the car at the moment and plan to put the bigger or build the 1.8l engine in the winter 06/07
Thanks
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Stock-for-stock, the SRT's engine will be capable of the most power, probably followed by the Miata engine. If they're all built up with forged internals, the results will probably be the same.
There is no one I'm aware of that has put an SRT or H22 in a Miata, so there is no kit. That mean you'll be doing all the fabwork, plus the cost of materials. You'll also want to factor in the cost of a standalone ECU, I would think, if you're planning on pushing any of these engines.
My guess is, it'll cost $3,000-5,000+ for the fab work and materials for miscellaneous items (driveshaft, PPF custom-fitting or custom tranny mount, possible custom diff. mount, possible custom axles, bespoke exhaust, engine mounts and fuel lines, power steering lines, a/c lines, oil lines, heater/radiator lines, intake tract pipes, intercooler, turbo, etc.). Then just add the cost of the motor (no idea, but maybe $750 for a shitty H22 to $4,000 for a crate SRT motor?) and an ECU (~$1500-2500), and you're done
Oh, and you might factor in time spent. Oh, and those motor prices would not include the forged internals or the labor to build them.
Or, ya know, your Miata already comes installed with a motor capable of 300+rwhp on stock internals (with a good tune and standalone ECU and injectors). Plenty of power to move a ~2300lb. car pretty smartly.
There is no one I'm aware of that has put an SRT or H22 in a Miata, so there is no kit. That mean you'll be doing all the fabwork, plus the cost of materials. You'll also want to factor in the cost of a standalone ECU, I would think, if you're planning on pushing any of these engines.
My guess is, it'll cost $3,000-5,000+ for the fab work and materials for miscellaneous items (driveshaft, PPF custom-fitting or custom tranny mount, possible custom diff. mount, possible custom axles, bespoke exhaust, engine mounts and fuel lines, power steering lines, a/c lines, oil lines, heater/radiator lines, intake tract pipes, intercooler, turbo, etc.). Then just add the cost of the motor (no idea, but maybe $750 for a shitty H22 to $4,000 for a crate SRT motor?) and an ECU (~$1500-2500), and you're done
Oh, and you might factor in time spent. Oh, and those motor prices would not include the forged internals or the labor to build them.
Or, ya know, your Miata already comes installed with a motor capable of 300+rwhp on stock internals (with a good tune and standalone ECU and injectors). Plenty of power to move a ~2300lb. car pretty smartly.
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Transplanting a FWD platform engine into a RWD chassis is likely going to be an exercise in extreme frustration/futility. If you must swap in a larger displacement engine go for something from a 4-cylinder pickup or other RWD vehicle (e.g. 240SX KA24(D)E).
If you really want more displacement a 2L stroker kit for the 1.8 will probably cost about the same as going into uncharted engine swap territory and result in fewer headaches.
If you really want more displacement a 2L stroker kit for the 1.8 will probably cost about the same as going into uncharted engine swap territory and result in fewer headaches.
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Originally Posted by Al Hounos
Let's get to a more fundamental question here...
Dhaark, you do know the miata is RWD right?
Dhaark, you do know the miata is RWD right?
Probably I'll just buy an NB and then get forged internals for it and keep the 1.8l displacement + turbo.
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Originally Posted by Dhaark
Yes I know it's a RWD car.
Probably I'll just buy an NB and then get forged internals for it and keep the 1.8l displacement + turbo.
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Probably I'll just buy an NB and then get forged internals for it and keep the 1.8l displacement + turbo.
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I've asked about the H22 and the SRT-4 engine because i like the 4cyl engines. i personally don't like v8 (except if they are in suv's, pickup's).
Will the stock 1.8l be good with a GT35r turbo?
Will the stock 1.8l be good with a GT35r turbo?
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Originally Posted by Dhaark
I've asked about the H22 and the SRT-4 engine because i like the 4cyl engines. i personally don't like v8 (except if they are in suv's, pickup's).
Will the stock 1.8l be good with a GT35r turbo?
Will the stock 1.8l be good with a GT35r turbo?
V8 roar > Vtec
When I see posts asking about crazy swaps and sky high HP, I would love to see it happening but 99% of the time its just somebody dreaming.
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Originally Posted by Dhaark
ok Al Hounos, but having a 400hp 4cyl miata would be great, maybe not reliable but fun to drive.
Is there anyone that has built a 400hp miata for less than 20k? I doubt it.
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I think there was a 450hp miata for sale somewhere (it had an FE3 engine).
I am just asking if a H22a or a 2.4l stratus engine can be put into the miata and how much money would have to be put into the project.
I think after the purchase of the miata I am going to put in niew suspension, roll bar, TII trans, TII Diff. And after that build the 1.8 engine out of the miata to be reliable at 350-400hp level.
And I don't like the V8's because they are too big for a car like a Miata. - my opinion!
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When I see posts asking about crazy swaps and sky high HP, I would love to see it happening but 99% of the time its just somebody dreaming.
I think after the purchase of the miata I am going to put in niew suspension, roll bar, TII trans, TII Diff. And after that build the 1.8 engine out of the miata to be reliable at 350-400hp level.
And I don't like the V8's because they are too big for a car like a Miata. - my opinion!
Thank's