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Old 04-04-2017 | 07:42 PM
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Default 1.6l vs 1.8l Turbo differences

God knows how many times this question has popped up but!

Stats; numbers is what I want. Does anyone have any figures showing the differences between the two engines when turboed? HP, spool time etc etc

Would be a huge help, thanks
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Old 04-04-2017 | 07:42 PM
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search. many threads for you to read.
Old 04-04-2017 | 08:34 PM
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The 1.8 spools faster and makes more power at any given rpm. I do recall seeing someone compare similar setups and the 1.8 made a lot more torque a lot sooner and an extra 20ish HP at redline.
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n00bs to be less retarded and lazy....is all I really want
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I've tried looking around, on various other forums/websites too. Having a comparison with numbers makes everything so much nicer to see. Anyone have a link?
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yep, here you go:

1.6 vs 1.8 all da numbazz
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Good comparison I like to refer to
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We got a couple of jokers here... You two make quite the pair!
Since you both seem to know everything, find me a data sheet comparing stats of the 1.6 v 1.8 when turboed. Because it seems to be very hard to come by...
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Originally Posted by Harry_98M
We got a couple of jokers here... You two make quite the pair!
Since you both seem to know everything, find me a data sheet comparing stats of the 1.6 v 1.8 when turboed. Because it seems to be very hard to come by...
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Damn millennials.
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​​​​​​​#fakenews #alternativefacts
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but don't worry, the 1.6 gets a participation trophy
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Originally Posted by 18psi
but don't worry, the 1.6 gets a participation trophy
I mean it makes more power up top above 6400rpms. Which I am more sure has to do with me running a nice eBay MBC and not having a great tune when I did that 1.8 dyno.
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the 2hp for 20rpm up top? you're right, that right there would win the race

we're also forgetting the most important part: the 1.6 revs like a superbike
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Originally Posted by aidandj
#fakenews #alternativefacts
except it's not.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
we're also forgetting the most important part: the 1.6 revs like a superbike
i too, also like a cam that can't spool a turbo so you get the seat of pants rush late in revs, and then can't make top-end due to other restrictions!

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Originally Posted by Braineack
i too, also like a cam that can't spool a turbo so you get the seat of pants rush late in revs, and then can't make top-end due to other restrictions!

What did you find to have the biggest restrictions for top end power on the 1.6? I see a lot of references to your older 1.6 T3 build, but never have much luck finding old posts regarding your setup.
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That image compares the NA 1.8L (BP5A) to the NB1 1.8L (BP4W).

The 1.6 is considerably worse than the BP5A.
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