Suggestions for Stiffening
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The two braces stiffens different areas of the car,determine what part of the car you want to stiffen up and the decision will be simple.
I chose the BF brace,I find there was no need for me to purchase the Frog arms,due to the fact that I will never track the car or attend autox.The BF brace does more for a street car than the Frog arms will.
I chose the BF brace,I find there was no need for me to purchase the Frog arms,due to the fact that I will never track the car or attend autox.The BF brace does more for a street car than the Frog arms will.
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If you ever get the chance to drive a miata with the BF brace,do it,then report back and tell us what you think.
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hmmm, everything is real good. after all this i'm leaning torwards the butterfly. next question, not to put any type of competition between FM and others, but comparing the butterfly brace to 949racing subframe brace kit ( 949Racing subframe brace kit 90-05 Miata - subframebracekit ) , opinions?
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Well then you should not offer advice if you have no experience with the product.Assuming someone does not need the BF brace is pretty lame,especially when you have no experience with it.
If you ever get the chance to drive a miata with the BF brace,do it,then report back and tell us what you think.
If you ever get the chance to drive a miata with the BF brace,do it,then report back and tell us what you think.
Since I don't know **** about the butterfly brace, and you do, how much MORE stiffening does it offer than just the normal frame rails, and is that worth the extra $241. That would probably help out the OP a little more.
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hmmm, everything is real good. after all this i'm leaning torwards the butterfly. next question, not to put any type of competition between FM and others, but comparing the butterfly brace to 949racing subframe brace kit ( 949Racing subframe brace kit 90-05 Miata - subframebracekit ) , opinions?
Just get the BF brace,you will notice it alot more than 949 Racing subframe braces.
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it doesn't matter which one you start out with, if you are serious about stiffening you will end up with them all eventually anyways. So get the one the wallet likes most this month and next month get another then another and so on until you are "arbitrarily close" to driving a piece of I-beam
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Rough seat of the pants feel? The difference between the frame rails and the full butterfly is similar to the difference between stock and the frame rails. That's not instrumented, it's what our customers tell us. We developed the frame rails first, and if the butterfly hadn't made any further improvements we wouldn't have bothered bringing it to market. It's definitely worthwhile.
I've tried to instrument the chassis stiffness increase from the butterfly, but I was relying on the weight of the car to induce sag. I could do that with a stock car. I couldn't get any sag with the butterfly, so I wasn't able to generate any meaningful numbers.
I've tried to instrument the chassis stiffness increase from the butterfly, but I was relying on the weight of the car to induce sag. I could do that with a stock car. I couldn't get any sag with the butterfly, so I wasn't able to generate any meaningful numbers.
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