Fab9 Tuning - Miata Performance Parts Fab9 Tuning specializes in bringing the highest performing Mazda Miata parts on the market today.

The Fab9Tuning Side-Mount Turbo Manifold & Downpipe Kits - NOW SHIPPING. EFR+Garrett

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-19-2015 | 06:00 PM
  #21  
JasonC SBB's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,420
Total Cats: 84
Default

FAB what are the specs of the motor in that dyno plot?
Old 04-19-2015 | 07:28 PM
  #22  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,194
Total Cats: 1,687
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
FAB what are the specs of the motor in that dyno plot?
Here is the post with more info about the dyno and stuff. You can read his build thread to get more details.
Old 04-19-2015 | 08:28 PM
  #23  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,642
Total Cats: 1,866
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

Originally Posted by shuiend
Are any of those back to back comparisons on a miata?
Don't you own a v-band EFR, and a v-band GTxxxx?

You're up
Old 04-20-2015 | 03:44 PM
  #24  
JasonC SBB's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,420
Total Cats: 84
Default

Originally Posted by shuiend
Here is the post with more info about the dyno and stuff. You can read his build thread to get more details.
tl;dr. Is that a 1.6? Because there's a huge difference in spoolup vs this 6258 build:



from
https://www.miataturbo.net/dynos-tim...-6258-a-81209/
Old 04-20-2015 | 03:45 PM
  #25  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,642
Total Cats: 1,866
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

Definitely not a 1.6
Old 04-20-2015 | 03:46 PM
  #26  
concealer404's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,917
Total Cats: 2,203
Default

It's a 1.8.

Dyno was not done in the 1:1 gear.
Old 04-20-2015 | 04:12 PM
  #27  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,194
Total Cats: 1,687
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by concealer404
It's a 1.8.

Dyno was not done in the 1:1 gear.
Did we ever figure out what gear exactly they were done in? I know there was lots of talk and speculation but I am not sure if we got a definitive answer.
Old 04-20-2015 | 04:25 PM
  #28  
Jeffbucc's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,764
Total Cats: 951
From: Cedar City, UT
Default

I am trying to get a clear answer on why the graph is a little funky but after I do some data logging of a 5th gear pull I'll be able to give you a more definitive answer.
Old 04-20-2015 | 04:59 PM
  #29  
FAB's Avatar
FAB
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 971
Total Cats: 417
Default

...Sounds like it was in 5th gear?
Old 04-20-2015 | 05:02 PM
  #30  
Jeffbucc's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,764
Total Cats: 951
From: Cedar City, UT
Default

Originally Posted by FAB
...Sounds like it was in 5th gear?
To kill any more conjecture or wondering what the hell happened I'll just copy this from my thread to show that the results are a little skewed due to a bad sensor. Also runs were done in 5th, yes.

OK so I got a hold of kyle who tuned the car and asked him why, compared to other similar builds it showed such negative performance and apparently in order for the Dyno to display the results on the Dyno he was using(not his own, a BMW shop's, he found that one of the sensors was faulty and had to deactivate it so it didn't go on the fritz when trying to get a plot. Also the power runs shown in the graph were done in fifth gear rather than 4th like I thought.

Here are the texts since he explained it better than I am.





Old 04-20-2015 | 05:06 PM
  #31  
concealer404's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,917
Total Cats: 2,203
Default

Oh interesting. So it was in 1:1, but very little load.

Got $50 to throw it on another dyno just for some numbers?
Old 04-20-2015 | 05:24 PM
  #32  
Jeffbucc's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,764
Total Cats: 951
From: Cedar City, UT
Default

The money I have, yes, the easy access, no. I have an autocross in Vegas this weekend so maybe if I can find a different Dyno on Saturday, I'll see if I can do a few pulls.
Old 04-20-2015 | 06:08 PM
  #33  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,194
Total Cats: 1,687
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
The money I have, yes, the easy access, no. I have an autocross in Vegas this weekend so maybe if I can find a different Dyno on Saturday, I'll see if I can do a few pulls.
Just stop by Dyno Jet.
Old 05-01-2015 | 12:30 PM
  #34  
Der_Idiot's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,489
Total Cats: 28
From: Saint Paul, MN
Default

We need moar high boost 6258 plots, would be awesome if you could make the time to get another!
Old 07-10-2015 | 09:06 PM
  #35  
FAB's Avatar
FAB
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 971
Total Cats: 417
Default

Now DISCOUNTED pricing on ALL Borg Warner EFR turbos - Pricing reflected when you add on a turbo with your Manifold/Downpipe purchase.

We're clearing out some inventory and EFR's are first to go. Some of these turbos are marked up to $525 off! Sale prices are listed outright, no promo code required. We are still shipping these domestically for only $9! International shipping pricing is now available instantly before check-out.



LINK

Currently covered under the sale:
  • EFR 6258 T25 & EWG .64 a/r
  • EFR 6258 V-Band & EWG .85 a/r
  • EFR 6758 T25 & IWG .64 a/r
  • EFR 6758 T25 & IWG .85 a/r
  • EFR 7163 V-Band & EWG .85 a/r
  • EFR 7163 V-Band & IWG .85 a/r
  • EFR 7163 Twin Scroll T4 & IWG .80 a/r
  • (not BW but also on sale) GT2860rs T25 .86 a/r

We've also adjusted the pricing when purchased with our Side-Mount Manifold and Downpipe setup:

LINK

Old 07-30-2015 | 05:00 PM
  #36  
FAB's Avatar
FAB
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 971
Total Cats: 417
Default

Finally got my NB up and running for the Miatas at the Gap event - here is a quick shot of how the setup looks.

Car is untuned as of yet but it's an absolute monster:

Old 08-17-2015 | 03:04 PM
  #37  
Tim18t's Avatar
Newb
 
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 40
Total Cats: 5
Default

Are these manifolds just for 1.8 or do you make a 1.6 as well?
Old 08-17-2015 | 03:23 PM
  #38  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,194
Total Cats: 1,687
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by Tim18t
Are these manifolds just for 1.8 or do you make a 1.6 as well?
1.8 only. Also if you are considering running an EFR you might as well upgrade to a 1.8 engine. At the end of the day the cost of the 1.8 is tiny compared to the cost of the rest of the setup.
Old 08-28-2015 | 01:07 PM
  #39  
FAB's Avatar
FAB
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 971
Total Cats: 417
Default

Well that didn't last long. Our NB on relatively low boost is making monstrous amounts of power on the new EFR setup. I stopped street tuning it at 20psi because I just didn't want any more power. We had an appointment scheduled for the Dyno yesterday and just a couple of days before it we blew up the differential from a roll race with a modded C6 Z06. 45mph roll, no brake boosting - rolled into it and as soon as it spooled she let go.



I pulled a couple of Ford 8.8 Driveshaft Shop CV shafts off the shelf and we will proceed with the T2 trans and Ford 8.8 swap, then she will hit the rollers immediately. I'm expecting we will tune the car to just over 500whp and park it for the winter.
Old 08-29-2015 | 11:05 PM
  #40  
stefanst's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,215
Total Cats: 74
From: Lambertville, NJ
Default

Looking at the pictures of the downpipe: No flex pipe, no exhaust flange- correct?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:16 AM.