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Old 04-12-2012 | 01:13 PM
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Although I'm ashamed to say it, I've raced with fram filters. No explosions yet, and I would only buy them if the other brand or two O'rilley's had were sold out, and still will. Although I now shop at Autozone, so maybe I won't have that problem any more.

With stock rods, stock transmission, stock pistons, and the abuse my turbo and I throw at it, if/when it does blow up I won't be blaming the few thousand miles of Fram filtering.
Old 04-12-2012 | 01:33 PM
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jiffylube girls:

Is that the same person? lol

Dude the girl I'm talking about wasn't a tech or manager, she was a bimbo counter girl that answered the phone and printed out receipts.
Old 04-12-2012 | 01:37 PM
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I didnt realize jerkoff lube was a national chain.

Some warranties are void with certain filters too.
Old 04-12-2012 | 02:36 PM
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So how are the mazda filters? Because that is what I use
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Take a sawzall to them, show us the results Fae.
Old 04-12-2012 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
So how are the mazda filters? Because that is what I use
Probably varies, based on which company was the OEM at that particular time. "Mazda" doesn't manufacture filters, but they sure as heck know how to buy a filter and print their logo on it.
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I just started using purolator's fancy filter because it's pretty cheap and they didn't have my usual Mobil 1 filter in stock. I will probably keep using it unless I stumble on some info that says it's bad.
Old 04-13-2012 | 11:49 AM
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Ohhhh....

I was sent this link....

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil...reference.html

All sorts of cut open filters!
Old 04-13-2012 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by blaen99
Take a sawzall to them, show us the results Fae.
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Old 04-13-2012 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by blaen99
Take a sawzall to them, show us the results Fae.
Pro tip: remove filter from car before applying sawzall.
Old 04-13-2012 | 12:52 PM
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Now I'm curious.....

I'll put my oil filter cutting device to use tonight and open up a Mazda Black Filter..
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I've been using MicroGuard oil filters on my Protege since I bought it in 2008, have put over 130k miles on it since. Notice the cardboard and cheap construction:




Found a mazda branded filter on my Miata's blown up motor (thrown rod) and cut it apart:






The mazda filter is of much higher quality build using a cartridge and the pressure bypass is a spring that holds the cartridge against the base. The close picture inside the casing along with the paper towel show a significant amount of very fine metal shavings but none were found on the outlet side of the filter.

Not sure if the mazda filters are still available in this quality since I'm still running from a personal stockpile of them, but I like what I see.
Old 04-14-2012 | 10:38 PM
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I bought a box of WIX a while ago. I'm good for a few years of oil changes... lol
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Old 04-15-2012 | 01:18 PM
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"Engineered fiber end caps"? Does he mean cardboard?
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Here is the filter I run


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Old 04-15-2012 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by blaen99
"Engineered fiber end caps"? Does he mean cardboard?
Yep.

Originally Posted by hingstonwm
Here is the filter I run


Christ, really? lol
Old 04-15-2012 | 11:30 PM
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Some of those metal re usable filters are getting very very good. We always have a guy peddling them at my work (motorcycle dealership) and I've researched the one he sells. It has an extremely high rate of filter.
Old 04-16-2012 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by falcon
Some of those metal re usable filters are getting very very good. We always have a guy peddling them at my work (motorcycle dealership) and I've researched the one he sells. It has an extremely high rate of filter.
Well, at $8 a filter it'll eventually pay for itself, plus it's more "friendly" to the land fills.
Old 04-16-2012 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by blaen99
"Engineered fiber end caps"? Does he mean cardboard?
No, I don't mean cardboard. They are made of cellulose and synthetic glass fiber. Dozens of guys racing in spec Miata use them. Take the time to actually learn about filtration instead of spouting Internet tribal knowledge and stop drinking the WIX koolaid. Honda, Subaru, Nissan, Bentley and AC Delco all use this technology. It works and works very well.



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