New High Boost/Load Sputter - COP Kit (w/ Logs)
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All,
After taking the car out of winter storage, it acquired a sputter/hesitation under high boost. After first, it only happened momentarily at around 30psi, but it's gotten progressively worse. Now it won't even hit 25psi without falling on its face.
Things I've done in an attempt to fix it:
Log attached. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks!
After taking the car out of winter storage, it acquired a sputter/hesitation under high boost. After first, it only happened momentarily at around 30psi, but it's gotten progressively worse. Now it won't even hit 25psi without falling on its face.
Things I've done in an attempt to fix it:
- New fuel
- New spark plugs (BKR7E at .28 gap)
- New Coils (car has a Trackspeed Engineering Coil on Plug Kit)
- Re-calibrated LC2 Wideband O2.
Log attached. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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My friend's car does this when the plug start to fowl, but you changed those already.
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Injector Duty Cycle does not log fuel delivered. Just tells you what your injectors are doing. With knowing the fuel pressure you are kind of blind.
Also, do you not log intake/manifold air temp? How in the world do you adjust for 50deg swings of air temp during a run up? To 30psi?
Also, I would go ahead and find a boroscope to look at the tops of your pistons for signs of detonation.
[you are brave my friend]
Also, do you not log intake/manifold air temp? How in the world do you adjust for 50deg swings of air temp during a run up? To 30psi?
Also, I would go ahead and find a boroscope to look at the tops of your pistons for signs of detonation.
[you are brave my friend]
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- Tune is attached
- I do not have CLT safety in place at this temp range
- I do not think it's fuel related. I attached another log of it happening and you can see AFRs are not going above 12.0. I think whatever is causing the issue is causing the car to lean out bit.
- Built engine w/ GT35R (build thread here, and I think the content is still current).
Injector Duty Cycle does not log fuel delivered. Just tells you what your injectors are doing. With knowing the fuel pressure you are kind of blind.
Also, do you not log intake/manifold air temp? How in the world do you adjust for 50deg swings of air temp during a run up? To 30psi?
Also, I would go ahead and find a boroscope to look at the tops of your pistons for signs of detonation.
[you are brave my friend]
Also, do you not log intake/manifold air temp? How in the world do you adjust for 50deg swings of air temp during a run up? To 30psi?
Also, I would go ahead and find a boroscope to look at the tops of your pistons for signs of detonation.
[you are brave my friend]
- Regarding injector duty cycle: my thought was DC would increase to compensate for lower fuel pressure (for example, if your fuel pump is too small, you could max out injector DC even thought the injectors could flow more. I imagined that a reduced fuel flow would act like a under powered fuel pump). But was a total guess on my part.
- I don't log intake/manifold air temps (though if you have any references on how to, I'll certainly read up). That said, I use mechanical knock sensors to ensure the car isn't detonating.
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The lean spike is the misfiring. Uncombusted oxygen in the exhaust will register as lean.
Can't really be the CKP sensor IMO. He has no sync loss.
The biggest issue I can see from your log is your battery voltage. The megasquirt is showing 17+ volts. Grab a multimeter and confirm.
Can't really be the CKP sensor IMO. He has no sync loss.
The biggest issue I can see from your log is your battery voltage. The megasquirt is showing 17+ volts. Grab a multimeter and confirm.
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Because it's progressively getting worse, and load based, I can't help but think it's a connection, a sensor or a ground etc. 🤬.
Actually, I just did some reading and I have a hunch that it's the capacitor within the ignition harness. I think it would also explain why I'm still able to go beyond 20psi, but not 30. I'm going to open up the harness tomorrow and see of Amazon offers a replacement capacitor.
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I would check ground connections for the ignition coils. I don't drive my car very often, but I had something similar this time around when I took the car out of the garage.
I have ls2 truck coils and could push the boost up, but was getting random misfires above 17 psi. I went through everything on the wiring including cleaning the ground for the ignition coils, changing spark plugs, reseated all of my spark plug wires and made sure all connections were clean. No more misfires
Edit: I wouldn't worry about the capacitor until checking everything else first
I have ls2 truck coils and could push the boost up, but was getting random misfires above 17 psi. I went through everything on the wiring including cleaning the ground for the ignition coils, changing spark plugs, reseated all of my spark plug wires and made sure all connections were clean. No more misfires
Edit: I wouldn't worry about the capacitor until checking everything else first
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I would check ground connections for the ignition coils. I don't drive my car very often, but I had something similar this time around when I took the car out of the garage.
I have ls2 truck coils and could push the boost up, but was getting random misfires above 17 psi. I went through everything on the wiring including cleaning the ground for the ignition coils, changing spark plugs, reseated all of my spark plug wires and made sure all connections were clean. No more misfires
Edit: I wouldn't worry about the capacitor until checking everything else first
I have ls2 truck coils and could push the boost up, but was getting random misfires above 17 psi. I went through everything on the wiring including cleaning the ground for the ignition coils, changing spark plugs, reseated all of my spark plug wires and made sure all connections were clean. No more misfires
Edit: I wouldn't worry about the capacitor until checking everything else first
New fuelNew spark plugs (BKR7E at .28 gap)New Coils (car has a Trackspeed Engineering Coil on Plug Kit)Re-calibrated LC2 Wideband O2New 10,000uf Capacitor (for Cop harness)New Crank position censorScrubbed the grounds (behind exhaust manifold, and on throttle body)Turned off all boost cut features (fuel/ignition in Tuner studio)
Outside of the firmware, what the hell else could this be? Ugh, so frustrating since the car's been running well for a while.
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Last edited by Carloverx; 05-26-2019 at 06:08 PM.
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Car died entirely. What I know:
- While driving, it stalled
- All the lights/dash are still lit
- Car still cranks but does not attempt to start
- Fuel pump does NOT cycle when key is turned to on position
- My laptop no longer acknowledges my DIYPNP megasquirt
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Check your big INJ fuse in the engine bay
This happened to me. Turns out my cam sensor wiring grounded out on my hood after it rubbed a hole through the insulation (VVT cam sensor position) . I had tied it into the injector power white/red.
Start looking for witness marks on parts or braided lines that might have worn through and cause undesired shorts.
This happened to me. Turns out my cam sensor wiring grounded out on my hood after it rubbed a hole through the insulation (VVT cam sensor position) . I had tied it into the injector power white/red.
Start looking for witness marks on parts or braided lines that might have worn through and cause undesired shorts.