Miata LFX Swap (Singular Motorsports & Good-Win Racing)
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Debated over this for a while. The Camaro comes with an Aisin LY6 6-speed with the "MV5" designation. That box has some interesting ratios. From 1st to 6th gear: 4.48 / 2.58 / 1.63 / 1.19 / 1 / 0.75
1st and 2nd are super short, 3rd has a big drop and is very long, then 4th is very short again. I can think of arguments for and against this, depending on the specific scenario/track.
The base model Cadillac CTS uses the same engine, and has a manual gearbox option - that transmission is the MV7, and it has much more evenly-spaced ratios: 4.16 / 2.51 / 1.69 / 1.27 / 1 / 0.75
To visualize the differences between the two transmission, I graphed them:
I decided to go for the MV7. Turns out this trans is rather rare - likely because the base model CTS is rarely chosen with a manual - but I finally found one with low miles in Texas and had it shipped over. $1200 including freight:
1st and 2nd are super short, 3rd has a big drop and is very long, then 4th is very short again. I can think of arguments for and against this, depending on the specific scenario/track.
The base model Cadillac CTS uses the same engine, and has a manual gearbox option - that transmission is the MV7, and it has much more evenly-spaced ratios: 4.16 / 2.51 / 1.69 / 1.27 / 1 / 0.75
To visualize the differences between the two transmission, I graphed them:
I decided to go for the MV7. Turns out this trans is rather rare - likely because the base model CTS is rarely chosen with a manual - but I finally found one with low miles in Texas and had it shipped over. $1200 including freight:
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did you check out the price of a new trans? when i was doing my swap it was cheaper to buy a t56 straight from tremmic vs. used+rebuild.
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What are you doing for wiring? Making a standalone harness out of the factory harness? I'm not finding ECU pinouts online.
What about gauges? It looks like a Racepak logger would pair nicely with the OBD2 module.
What about gauges? It looks like a Racepak logger would pair nicely with the OBD2 module.
#27
Going with V8R's Getrag Stage 2 which consists of the diff mount, axles rated for 550 ft-lbs, full billet replacement hubs with ARP studs, and driveshaft. This is their same kit as designed for the V8 cars, but with driveshaft specific to the transmission. Opted for the aluminum driveshaft because race car.
Most of those parts are en-route right now, but the Getrag diff mount is already here. The two bare steel tabs get welded to the Miata rear subframe:
Most of those parts are en-route right now, but the Getrag diff mount is already here. The two bare steel tabs get welded to the Miata rear subframe:
I feel like this has already been discussed in one of the other LFX threads, but would a miata diff with 3.63 and OS Giken be an option for an LFX swap?
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Are you sticking with the CTS clutch-type LSD? One of my friends has the CTS clutch-type in his V8-swapped car and wasn't very happy with it last time I talked to him. Lots of wheel spin.
I feel like this has already been discussed in one of the other LFX threads, but would a miata diff with 3.63 and OS Giken be an option for an LFX swap?
I feel like this has already been discussed in one of the other LFX threads, but would a miata diff with 3.63 and OS Giken be an option for an LFX swap?
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I should clarify. On the street, i doubt you'll blow one on stock power.
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For gauges, I'll likely go spartan at first and re-use my Accutech water/oil temp gauges, and just worry about getting the tach working. I completely agree, the way to go is a digital dash that pulls all the data straight from the ECU, but I'll need to delay that purchase after the higher priorities are addressed.
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Are you sticking with the CTS clutch-type LSD? One of my friends has the CTS clutch-type in his V8-swapped car and wasn't very happy with it last time I talked to him. Lots of wheel spin.
I feel like this has already been discussed in one of the other LFX threads, but would a miata diff with 3.63 and OS Giken be an option for an LFX swap?
I feel like this has already been discussed in one of the other LFX threads, but would a miata diff with 3.63 and OS Giken be an option for an LFX swap?
-Ryan
#35
I've heard good things about the getrag diffs. The V8R "spec" cars all run them in their L33 V8 swapped cars with good results according to Shandelle, and others have reported that they are an upgrade in behavior from the Torsen. Also good ground clearance (for flat bottom). If I turn out to not like it, I'll explore other options.
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#38
I'm doing the same swap, haven't made a thread over here yet. Using the MV7 as well. Need to update the threads as we've gone a few step backs while I fixed my brothers car, but we're starting to move forward again. My dad watched some of turbotom's V8 build and we ended up making DIY lizardskin for $30 and installing the IL motorsports bushings. After carnut's build (and being able to see the car in person as he's local to us) we decided the modified oil pan was necessary and pulled the engine back out and put it on a stand. Just got the oil pan delivered today. I'm trying to document as much as possible for part numbers and howto's. Next big thing I'm about to tackle is converting the automatic wiring harness to manual and making a standalone harness from scratch. Feel free to ping me with any questions.
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