Honda 3.5L V6 swap
#61
Aren't there factory front sump LSx cars? The j-series are definitely "front" sump from the factory, but they're obviously all in FWD cars.
I really wish they had implemented a starter solution like Claire uses with her KL swaps. This would have made rear sump possible and probably allowed them to keep the stock steering rack location because per the build thread on CR, the steering rack sits "about half an inch".
I really wish they had implemented a starter solution like Claire uses with her KL swaps. This would have made rear sump possible and probably allowed them to keep the stock steering rack location because per the build thread on CR, the steering rack sits "about half an inch".
#62
And I highly doubt the total kit weight to be less than the 75 or so pounds extra of the v6, all of which is now behind the front axle. (315 lb wet long block, according to multiple sources)
Not trying to be a dick, but these motors are pretty amazing if you research them.
Lol, someone is literally going through my posts to negative prop me now? ******* pathetic
#63
"OEM honda reliability" Have you seen the parts for the swap kit? They look like they're coming out of the cheapest chinese sweat shop that the company could find. I'd rather have a china turbo that's probably going to be reliable but just down a bit on spool vs a cheap chinese oil pan that could turn into a pretzel on the first heat cycle.
#69
Also, we get it. You don't like the kit or the swap at all. And that's all right.
In the end, the j-series engines are very reliable, have plenty of motorsports pedigree and seem to be what most always wanted from a Miata.
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J series are garbage. There is nothing performance oriented about that engine. Its just a big engine option for pulling around the monstrous boat the Accord has turned into.
Honda made a good V6s, and its not a J series, its a C series.
Honda made a good V6s, and its not a J series, its a C series.
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#71
J series are garbage. There is nothing performance oriented about that engine. Its just a big engine option for pulling around the monstrous boat the Accord has turned into.
Honda made a good V6s, and its not a J series, its a C series:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412015295
Honda made a good V6s, and its not a J series, its a C series:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1412015295
Also, you should check out NSXPrime to see the the swaps people are doing to get rid of the c-series. Just a hint, they like the J-series.
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The c-series engines were the pedestrian predecessor to the j-series. Other than the NSX was it ever used in something performance oriented?
The C series V6s used in the Legend and other cars had very little in common with the NSX engines. Just like the s2000 F20C/F22C has little in common with the F series used in the old Accords.
Also, you should check out NSXPrime to see the the swaps people are doing to get rid of the c-series. Just a hint, they like the J-series.
That is the saddest thing I have ever heard.
The C series V6s used in the Legend and other cars had very little in common with the NSX engines. Just like the s2000 F20C/F22C has little in common with the F series used in the old Accords.
Also, you should check out NSXPrime to see the the swaps people are doing to get rid of the c-series. Just a hint, they like the J-series.
That is the saddest thing I have ever heard.
There are so many swaps that make more sense than this. If you want a "big block" swap for a Miata, we already have that **** figured out. Its made by GM and its fantastic.
The J series has no place being swapped into ****, especially not a Miata.
#75
What's with your hate for the J-series engines? I can post all kinds of pictures of j-series based engines like your c30/c32 above to show it off.
LFX and the transmission probably cost close to what this swap could cost. I like the LFX quite a bit, honestly. I think it's great for the chassis.
#77
Yes, it will likely cost more than the J swap, but how much would it cost to get the J to the same power output? Also V8R's swap stuff is proven in Miatas at higher power levels. And, how will the Miata trans hold up to a 300hp V6?
It'll be nice when we get some more detail on both of these swaps and see some real world results. Until then, it's all bench racing...
#78
Have you Read about the differences between the LFX adn LTT? The integrated exhaust manifolds should make a swap a lot easier/neater. It also cuts one cost completely off the build sheet (headers). GM High Feature engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yes, it will likely cost more than the J swap, but how much would it cost to get the J to the same power output? Also V8R's swap stuff is proven in Miatas at higher power levels. And, how will the Miata trans hold up to a 300hp V6?
It'll be nice when we get some more detail on both of these swaps and see some real world results. Until then, it's all bench racing...
#79
I believe the HPFP is at the rails, so for a swap, it's just a matter of supplying sufficient fuel volume to the engine compartment.
IMHO the LFX is definitely preferable over the LLT. The integrated manifolds are nice for swaps, and though they may ultimately limit power, I don't see that as a big concern in a Miata.
IMHO the LFX is definitely preferable over the LLT. The integrated manifolds are nice for swaps, and though they may ultimately limit power, I don't see that as a big concern in a Miata.
#80
Cheese and Rice...get over yourself and your blind love of some Honda engines and you blind hatred of others.
The plain Jane j35 is the base for many a Motorsports engine... LMP2 twin turbo, DP twin turbo, etc etc. The engines are surprisingly OEM.
You know how many class wins at the 24 Hours of Lemans the C series V6 has? ONE. How many class wins at LeMans does the J-series based engines have? TWO.
GTFO