Clutch an 1.6er Turbo
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Imagine you are invited to watch a card game. Poker, for instance. You're invited to play in your own small game of poker, and you have a huge rulebook and strategy guide available to you. It's a little daunting, but all the information is in there, and there's even a glossary to help you find some of the basic stuff. You also have the option of watching the best players in the game as they work out new strategies and improve both the game and their own play.
Are you going to sit down at that table and ask that they stop and teach you how to play? Are you really surprised that they get pissed off? They wrote the rulebook and strategy guide, they opened their gameplay up for your own observation, and you still want them to simply tell you?
It seems foreign to new members, but to those of us who have been around the block, it's frustrating and insulting.
If you've gotten this far, you deserve this info:
-The best clutch you can buy is an ACT, hands down
-The new FM Stage 1 and Stage 2 clutches are getting good reviews
-SPEC Stage 2s are absolute crap
-Clutchnet is hit or miss, there's a long thread about Braineack having some major issues with his
If you wise up and learn to utilize the resources at your disposal (the Useful Posts section, the FAQs, and the search function), you'll open your own door to the vast world of knowledge that this forum has to offer. If you expect us to spoon-feed that knowledge to you, we will kick you in the stomach and slam that door on your head.
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i ran an ACT HD/organic combo for quite a while and loved it... until i overpowered it and it started slipping.
i swapped the disc out for a spec 3+... it held awesome, but within 3k miles it had eaten away at my flywheel and pressure plate to the point where they can't be reused. it was still holding power and driving just fine like this, i'd never have noticed if i hadn't pulled the trans.
i swapped the disc out for a spec 3+... it held awesome, but within 3k miles it had eaten away at my flywheel and pressure plate to the point where they can't be reused. it was still holding power and driving just fine like this, i'd never have noticed if i hadn't pulled the trans.
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Didn't install my clutch but P/O told me it has an ACT organic disk with XT pressure plate.
Best clutch I've ever used, it's amazing. Slips and is very well mannered but grabs HARD. Pedal is rather stiff but I prefer firm pedals. After my first couple hours driving the car I forgot about the pedal effort.
Best clutch I've ever used, it's amazing. Slips and is very well mannered but grabs HARD. Pedal is rather stiff but I prefer firm pedals. After my first couple hours driving the car I forgot about the pedal effort.
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Ok, just for formal:
Áll guys who fuckt up, when i ask some questions..
As a no english speaking person is it not very funny to search in a english forum like this, there are to many technical english than i understand, so it is very hard to find useful answers, maybe you can go on a german forum and search for something, you will see... 10000 hits an no result that match.
That is the reason why "noobs" asking.. and remember you was also a noob at the beginning.
But thank you anyway to open my eys...
And thank you to all other guys who sharing here experience with me and all other Noobs here on this Planet.
Áll guys who fuckt up, when i ask some questions..
As a no english speaking person is it not very funny to search in a english forum like this, there are to many technical english than i understand, so it is very hard to find useful answers, maybe you can go on a german forum and search for something, you will see... 10000 hits an no result that match.
That is the reason why "noobs" asking.. and remember you was also a noob at the beginning.
But thank you anyway to open my eys...
And thank you to all other guys who sharing here experience with me and all other Noobs here on this Planet.
You must understand that I taught myself the ins and outs of this car by SEARCHING through forums just like this, and not asking the masses about every little question that I had. Do you think that we've never discussed clutches before on this forum?
Imagine you are invited to watch a card game. Poker, for instance. You're invited to play in your own small game of poker, and you have a huge rulebook and strategy guide available to you. It's a little daunting, but all the information is in there, and there's even a glossary to help you find some of the basic stuff. You also have the option of watching the best players in the game as they work out new strategies and improve both the game and their own play.
Are you going to sit down at that table and ask that they stop and teach you how to play? Are you really surprised that they get pissed off? They wrote the rulebook and strategy guide, they opened their gameplay up for your own observation, and you still want them to simply tell you?
It seems foreign to new members, but to those of us who have been around the block, it's frustrating and insulting.
If you've gotten this far, you deserve this info:
-The best clutch you can buy is an ACT, hands down
-The new FM Stage 1 and Stage 2 clutches are getting good reviews
-SPEC Stage 2s are absolute crap
-Clutchnet is hit or miss, there's a long thread about Braineack having some major issues with his
If you wise up and learn to utilize the resources at your disposal (the Useful Posts section, the FAQs, and the search function), you'll open your own door to the vast world of knowledge that this forum has to offer. If you expect us to spoon-feed that knowledge to you, we will kick you in the stomach and slam that door on your head.
Imagine you are invited to watch a card game. Poker, for instance. You're invited to play in your own small game of poker, and you have a huge rulebook and strategy guide available to you. It's a little daunting, but all the information is in there, and there's even a glossary to help you find some of the basic stuff. You also have the option of watching the best players in the game as they work out new strategies and improve both the game and their own play.
Are you going to sit down at that table and ask that they stop and teach you how to play? Are you really surprised that they get pissed off? They wrote the rulebook and strategy guide, they opened their gameplay up for your own observation, and you still want them to simply tell you?
It seems foreign to new members, but to those of us who have been around the block, it's frustrating and insulting.
If you've gotten this far, you deserve this info:
-The best clutch you can buy is an ACT, hands down
-The new FM Stage 1 and Stage 2 clutches are getting good reviews
-SPEC Stage 2s are absolute crap
-Clutchnet is hit or miss, there's a long thread about Braineack having some major issues with his
If you wise up and learn to utilize the resources at your disposal (the Useful Posts section, the FAQs, and the search function), you'll open your own door to the vast world of knowledge that this forum has to offer. If you expect us to spoon-feed that knowledge to you, we will kick you in the stomach and slam that door on your head.
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A Friend of me just installed a ACT Xtreme (Stage 2) on a lightet 1.8 Flywheel he has the FM Stage 2 Kit installed, i have currently the Stock 1.6er Clutch on and it slips after a few "Miles" with Setup see signature (but i dont know how much horses (ponys) are under the hood.
I think i will try the FM Stage 2 Clutch Kit, becouse FM has the most feedback an knowledge about Turbo Miatas.
I think i will try the FM Stage 2 Clutch Kit, becouse FM has the most feedback an knowledge about Turbo Miatas.
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A Friend of me just installed a ACT Xtreme (Stage 2) on a lightet 1.8 Flywheel he has the FM Stage 2 Kit installed, i have currently the Stock 1.6er Clutch on and it slips after a few "Miles" with Setup see signature (but i dont know how much horses (ponys) are under the hood.
I think i will try the FM Stage 2 Clutch Kit, becouse FM has the most feedback an knowledge about Turbo Miatas.
I think i will try the FM Stage 2 Clutch Kit, becouse FM has the most feedback an knowledge about Turbo Miatas.
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wil work for you as will a act hd. No need to spend the money on a XT as your little 15g will not meat the potential of that clutch. The FM offering will be aproximatly 300 dollars plus international shipping where as the clutch i linked is local and only 140 euros. Wich is still a markup from what we see in the US market but quite affordable in my book. If you speak german plenty of us can help you in that language as well. And we might have some that speak other languages, french etc. Shrieb mir mall diene fragen wen die her kommen. Bis spater
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You must understand that I taught myself the ins and outs of this car by SEARCHING through forums just like this, and not asking the masses about every little question that I had. Do you think that we've never discussed clutches before on this forum?
Imagine you are invited to watch a card game. Poker, for instance. You're invited to play in your own small game of poker, and you have a huge rulebook and strategy guide available to you. It's a little daunting, but all the information is in there, and there's even a glossary to help you find some of the basic stuff. You also have the option of watching the best players in the game as they work out new strategies and improve both the game and their own play.
Are you going to sit down at that table and ask that they stop and teach you how to play? Are you really surprised that they get pissed off? They wrote the rulebook and strategy guide, they opened their gameplay up for your own observation, and you still want them to simply tell you?
It seems foreign to new members, but to those of us who have been around the block, it's frustrating and insulting.
If you wise up and learn to utilize the resources at your disposal (the Useful Posts section, the FAQs, and the search function), you'll open your own door to the vast world of knowledge that this forum has to offer. If you expect us to spoon-feed that knowledge to you, we will kick you in the stomach and slam that door on your head.
Imagine you are invited to watch a card game. Poker, for instance. You're invited to play in your own small game of poker, and you have a huge rulebook and strategy guide available to you. It's a little daunting, but all the information is in there, and there's even a glossary to help you find some of the basic stuff. You also have the option of watching the best players in the game as they work out new strategies and improve both the game and their own play.
Are you going to sit down at that table and ask that they stop and teach you how to play? Are you really surprised that they get pissed off? They wrote the rulebook and strategy guide, they opened their gameplay up for your own observation, and you still want them to simply tell you?
It seems foreign to new members, but to those of us who have been around the block, it's frustrating and insulting.
If you wise up and learn to utilize the resources at your disposal (the Useful Posts section, the FAQs, and the search function), you'll open your own door to the vast world of knowledge that this forum has to offer. If you expect us to spoon-feed that knowledge to you, we will kick you in the stomach and slam that door on your head.
+1
Get an ACT Xtreme and never look back.
These are made for both 1.6L and 1.8L flywheels...and hold up to a LOT of abuse.
DO put good bearings in there when swapping (pilot and throwout).
DO be ready to replace clutch slave cylinder and possibly clutch master cylinder as the slightly higher ACT pressure plate resistance will put some strain on old rubber seals.
This clutch engages EXACTLY like an OEM clutch...at the price of slightly higher pedal effort.
To me this is better than an OEM faggy-soft pedal with a light-switch engagement 6 puck disc.
Last edited by gospeed81; 09-26-2009 at 09:11 AM.