ATI Damper into 1.6 - or not? Part Numbers
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ATI Damper into 1.6 - or not? Part Numbers
Hi All,
I am getting my 1.6 rebuilt (91 long nose,forged bottom end, td04, stock tranny). However, shop broke the back of the crankshaft timing gear while removing. I have to get a st2 BE oil pump because I cannot find any oem pumps locally so might as well get be as it will cost me almost same.
Thinking about an aftermarket damper but I think it might be over kill after BE pump since I need to stay within limits of stock 5 speed tranny.
I am getting my 1.6 rebuilt (91 long nose,forged bottom end, td04, stock tranny). However, shop broke the back of the crankshaft timing gear while removing. I have to get a st2 BE oil pump because I cannot find any oem pumps locally so might as well get be as it will cost me almost same.
Thinking about an aftermarket damper but I think it might be over kill after BE pump since I need to stay within limits of stock 5 speed tranny.
- ATI damper comes with timing gear and pulley all in one (unless I misread the print); however I need alternator pulley and waterpump pulley changed to 1.8. I wanted to make sure I had everything right needed before comitting.
- My other option is to get a new 1.6 sprocket (60-70 $ with shipping and customs) and maybe a fluidr damper.
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Youll most likely need an entire 94-97 alternator, the 1.8 pulley doesn’t bolt to the 1.6 alt. But yes, that and the water pump pulley are all you need. The purpose of all this is to switch from a deep V belt to a 4-rib belt, so yes you’ll also need the 1.8 accessory belt. Any PS or AC belts and pulleys are interchangeable.
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Youll most likely need an entire 94-97 alternator, the 1.8 pulley doesn’t bolt to the 1.6 alt. But yes, that and the water pump pulley are all you need. The purpose of all this is to switch from a deep V belt to a 4-rib belt, so yes you’ll also need the 1.8 accessory belt. Any PS or AC belts and pulleys are interchangeable.
I guess I will stick with fulidr damper or just stay stock until I decide to up the power and tranny.
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It is advertised as straight bolt on for 1.6 but now that I look at photos I have, I think you are right. I asked Bryan fromm FAB9 and he said recommended Fluidampr but he might have missed my MY is 1991. Just checked the photo from the shop, original pulley has v-belt:
I think changeover point is 1993, based on what Fluidampr says is compatible. Never mind, checked part diagrams, 93 also has the same config. I think all 1.6 should have v belt acc. drives.
So basically, this means that unless I go for a new 1.8 alternator (or a later 1.6 appearently) and change waterpump pulley and get a new accessory belt, I have no way of upgrading factory damper. 1.8 alternator pulley is north of 100$ before shipping !
Another expense for another year I guess
Considering this OEM pulley is found between 150-200 $ it seemed wise to go for fluidampr (on sale) but if fluidampr also comes short on this, I will just use oem setup for now.
I think changeover point is 1993, based on what Fluidampr says is compatible. Never mind, checked part diagrams, 93 also has the same config. I think all 1.6 should have v belt acc. drives.
So basically, this means that unless I go for a new 1.8 alternator (or a later 1.6 appearently) and change waterpump pulley and get a new accessory belt, I have no way of upgrading factory damper. 1.8 alternator pulley is north of 100$ before shipping !
Another expense for another year I guess
Considering this OEM pulley is found between 150-200 $ it seemed wise to go for fluidampr (on sale) but if fluidampr also comes short on this, I will just use oem setup for now.
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