Anyone ran E98?
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Anyone ran E98?
I have been searching and have not been able to find much on E98 in these cars. I just talked to a local source that sells 55 gallon drums for a little over $300. Is it a huge step from E85 to 98? Obviously need BIG injectors and fuels system but seems like it could be pretty cool. I would set up secondary fuel and spark maps. I am betting gas mileage would be horrible.
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From what I've read vlad hit a good point with the part about needing gasoline. It lubes stuff in ways that alcohol doesnt. (there is a dirty joke in there somewhere)
You have to go to extreme limits to get e85 to knock.
Jays garage is like $3.00 a gallon for e85. Show up with a 55 gallon drum and spend half the price.
You have to go to extreme limits to get e85 to knock.
Jays garage is like $3.00 a gallon for e85. Show up with a 55 gallon drum and spend half the price.
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From what I've read vlad hit a good point with the part about needing gasoline. It lubes stuff in ways that alcohol doesnt. (there is a dirty joke in there somewhere)
You have to go to extreme limits to get e85 to knock.
Jays garage is like $3.00 a gallon for e85. Show up with a 55 gallon drum and spend half the price.
You have to go to extreme limits to get e85 to knock.
Jays garage is like $3.00 a gallon for e85. Show up with a 55 gallon drum and spend half the price.
#10
Yeah I thought about that. Or even blend it down a little more if you would like. Either way you need a flex sensor and very good grasp of tuning to make that work.
A lot of talk when it comes to E85 is that you can run all of the timing. But I think a huge possible benefit to E98 or possibly blend E90 could be ditching the intercooler. I am going to set my car up with tried and true methods until I know what I am doing but I think in the future I am going to try and figure out a ethanol non intercooler type set up at medium boost. I have read a bunch of threads involving water injection and no intercooler and they all seam to end up with a intercooler. Most of the E85 threads tend to be on cars that were already set up traditional and then E85 was added later.
A lot of talk when it comes to E85 is that you can run all of the timing. But I think a huge possible benefit to E98 or possibly blend E90 could be ditching the intercooler. I am going to set my car up with tried and true methods until I know what I am doing but I think in the future I am going to try and figure out a ethanol non intercooler type set up at medium boost. I have read a bunch of threads involving water injection and no intercooler and they all seam to end up with a intercooler. Most of the E85 threads tend to be on cars that were already set up traditional and then E85 was added later.
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Why do you want to not run an intercooler? The pain and hassle of getting your own gas. Or spending $6 a gallon. Will easily pay for an intercooler when you are getting 30% worse gas mileage.
#14
I already picked one up and do plan on using one but if I really like the idea of not using one unless I have to. Simpler pipping. Less couplers. Less clutter in the front of the car and lower weight. I am by no means saying this thought process is better or for anyone. Intercoolers are great but if I can get away with 275 at the wheels running E85ish without an intercooler and have the detonation safety of high octane I am going to try it. I wouldn't try this with a track car though. This is me just ******* around with a concept.
#15
You are way right on the ecomics of this though. I have a flat bed trailer so it wouldn't be too hard to just get two drums a month of Ethonal. My Miata is only half my daily driver. I use my Landcruiser most of the time because I keep my meal prep in the fridge. I also have a Supermoto bike I use to get to school. I would never consider this if it was my true daily. I would just leave it on gas and move on.
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for the record, I've ACTUALLY tried this with Toms FFTHUPERCHARGER. cause when I call someone a moron, and their whole forced induction method moronic, I like to speak from experience.
200-220F at cruise, 250-280F at 8psi of boost, on e85, and car made absolutely no friggen power cause it was ingesting lava
200-220F at cruise, 250-280F at 8psi of boost, on e85, and car made absolutely no friggen power cause it was ingesting lava