MS3Pro PnP or MSLabs Megasquirt MS3 Basic
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As I'm typing this I'm still so hesitant to ask; I mean, I see how we (noobs) get roasted for asking the most basic questions - sometimes understandably so. However, I think that lurking around here for two years and reading up thread after thread, after thread of comparisons, how to's, polls, etc., has prepared me (somewhat) to finally pull the trigger and begin my build.
But... I need help.
My goal is not to extract the last ounce of horsepower sauce or tune the car to within a micron of a catastrophic failure. I understand that you have to pay to play and have come to terms with that. But at the same time I'm not looking to overspend on unnecessary features that I would NEVER reap the benefits of.
Having said that, what do you consider that would be the best compromise when we talk about ECUs for a build? I have narrow it down to these two MS'
MS Labs
MSLabs Megasquirt MS3 Basic do I need >>> MSLabs CAN Wideband Module ?
and
diyautotune
Car is a 2002 SE - stock and engine (internally) will remain stock
Will upgrade to Flow Force 640cc EV14 Injectors
Have AEM wideband
I have a 2.5 exhaust that I purchased when was not thinking about boost and will not upgrade it to 3"
GT2871 Chinese equivalent
I do not race/drift or compete in any way
I do not drive this car in winter, and some times not even when its raining
I am not looking for maximum performance, instead something reliable
I'll be awaiting your response with a fire extinguisher.
Thanks
But... I need help.
My goal is not to extract the last ounce of horsepower sauce or tune the car to within a micron of a catastrophic failure. I understand that you have to pay to play and have come to terms with that. But at the same time I'm not looking to overspend on unnecessary features that I would NEVER reap the benefits of.
Having said that, what do you consider that would be the best compromise when we talk about ECUs for a build? I have narrow it down to these two MS'
MS Labs
MSLabs Megasquirt MS3 Basic do I need >>> MSLabs CAN Wideband Module ?
and
diyautotune
Miata 0105 MS3Pro PnP Plug
Would you recommend something else? What would it be and why. Please recommend the absolutely necessary considering that:Car is a 2002 SE - stock and engine (internally) will remain stock
Will upgrade to Flow Force 640cc EV14 Injectors
Have AEM wideband
I have a 2.5 exhaust that I purchased when was not thinking about boost and will not upgrade it to 3"
GT2871 Chinese equivalent
I do not race/drift or compete in any way
I do not drive this car in winter, and some times not even when its raining
I am not looking for maximum performance, instead something reliable
I'll be awaiting your response with a fire extinguisher.
Thanks
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Long story short, my MS3 Enhanced arrived a few months ago DOA with a faulty MAP sensor. Rev did offer to buy me an external MAP sensor, but I wanted what I initially thought I bought: a fully functional, non defective MS3 Enhanced (or a refund, which specific replies to that request have yet to be answered).
A number of emails / PMs to Rev and the reseller I purchased it from (Rev would either reply to him or me, not both), Rev finally agreed to accept return of my squirt in exchange for a (hopefully functional - need to find time off work to go to the post office and pick it up) replacement.
I do not doubt Rev has the ability build solid products and support them, but my personal experience with his hardware and customer service has taught me otherwise.
TLDR: If I knew then what I know now, I would have purchased an MS3 Pro PNP.
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The Enhanced is not for everyone, that's what my honest experience tells me. If you have a sufficient background in tuning ECUs, you will appreciate the additional features of the Enhanced over the Basic. Otherwise, the Basic will probably cover over 80% of Miata owners.
Jtt's issue was indeed a faulty MAP sensor, which happens in less than 0.2% of customers, and is most likely the result of the ECU being thrown around during shipping.
The V1.2 Enhanced has been around for almost 4 years now, and I use it on my own daily driven turbo Miata, if that means anything, with zero issues.
Having said that, there is only a small userbase of the Enhanced, probably due to cost.
I welcome any owner of the Enhanced that has purchased one in the last 3-4 years to post here with his experience.
Jtt's issue was indeed a faulty MAP sensor, which happens in less than 0.2% of customers, and is most likely the result of the ECU being thrown around during shipping.
The V1.2 Enhanced has been around for almost 4 years now, and I use it on my own daily driven turbo Miata, if that means anything, with zero issues.
Having said that, there is only a small userbase of the Enhanced, probably due to cost.
I welcome any owner of the Enhanced that has purchased one in the last 3-4 years to post here with his experience.