Is ms w/wonky wideband dangerous?
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It didn't come with directions, I bought it used. And the wires were a mess when I was shipped the part.
Okay well I'll have to do a thorough rewiring. As of right now, I have the ms all hooked up and in but now the damn junker laptop is not recognizing the connection to the ms
I'm setting it for narrow band for now. So now i gotta figure out the syncing problem
Okay well I'll have to do a thorough rewiring. As of right now, I have the ms all hooked up and in but now the damn junker laptop is not recognizing the connection to the ms
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I had the same problem with needing to recalibrate. If you connected the lc-1 to a computer and logged I bet you a dollar you would see a timing error. Upgrading to an alpha firmware that can be found with google fixed the issue for me.
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LC-1 and 2 have this annoying feature where when they don't get 12v while warming up they freeze. Innovate says to run a relay to the battery to get the cleanest and most stable power possible. Ground to the ECU for a clean signal.
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voltage drops to like 9v when cranking. it doesn't matter if youre running a relay directly off the battery.
if you dont have at least 12v when warming up, then you have bigger issues than with your WBo2 wiring.
if you dont have at least 12v when warming up, then you have bigger issues than with your WBo2 wiring.
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You might just be lucky. I found quite a few threads about it and it was an almost daily problem for me. Relay from the fuse box fixed it and I haven't had it since.
I had it wired off the ECU. And ran into issues.
I had it wired off the ECU. And ran into issues.
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the white/red wire is active during cranking [that would be silly if the ECU cut out during cranking]. but again, it drops below 10v during cranking on most cars.
the LC1 cuts out at 11.5v and below.
therefore: no afrs while cranking.
the LC1 cuts out at 11.5v and below.
therefore: no afrs while cranking.
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I'd rather sacrifice being able to log AFRs on startup to get a full 7.35-24:1 AFR range in a full 5v sweep vs the coveted 10-18AFR range in only a 4.25v sweep and whose actual readings don't even match the published outputs which requires a lot effort just to get matching values in your EMS all on a big ugly integrated gauge with a refresh rate so slow it makes it hard to read.
A 10-18AFR range is especially useful for those running e85...
A 10-18AFR range is especially useful for those running e85...