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Old 05-22-2014 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
it is plug and play

repeat

it is plug and play

contact Reverant. give him your money. done

if you make another post with "its not plug and play" I'm gonna post giant penises all over your thread

in fact, its "more" plug and play than a hydra. mind - blown. right?
OKAY, penises on my thread or anywhere around me is simply not necessary. I will however contact Reverant when the time is near me ordering a MS. I hope you guys are ready to handle any stupid noobie tuning questions when i get it. lololol but seriously i will read up on EFI tuning and try and do as much research as i can before blowing up the forum.
Old 05-22-2014 | 05:35 PM
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diyautotune writeups are your friend
msextra.com or whatever is your friend
this forum is your friend

reading through thousands of threads of people diagnosing and setting this crap up is your friend.

by the time you do the above, you likely won't have many questions left, and if you will they will be actual good questions we'd be happy to help with

it does take commitment and dedication, but the payoff is pretty sweet.

the flip side is just throwing cash at all your problems and have people set it up and tune it for you.
Old 05-22-2014 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 97miatanola
OKAY, penises on my thread or anywhere around me is simply not necessary. I will however contact Reverant when the time is near me ordering a MS. I hope you guys are ready to handle any stupid noobie tuning questions when i get it. lololol but seriously i will read up on EFI tuning and try and do as much research as i can before blowing up the forum.
The Megasquirt line is a general use ECU, it was designed to basically work on any gas powered engine. Now getting a tune and wiring that will work with your engine is the tricky part. Luckily in the miata world there are several vendors that offer PNP Megasquirts in various versions. DIYAutotune makes the MSPNP2 which runs off of the MS2. Reverant on this forum also makes several different PNP MS's based off of either the MS2 or MS3. Both those vendors should supply base maps that will get your car started and running, how well will vary because each car is slightly different. You will still need to go read and understand the megamanual to actually be able to tune the car.
Old 05-22-2014 | 05:50 PM
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Again i really appreciate all of the feedback. This forum is the ****! everybody here has helped in so many ways. The final product is really what I'm looking toward. and with the result being a direct correlation to my hard work is going to make the payoff HUGE. Thank all of you guys.
Old 05-22-2014 | 06:56 PM
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Hydra crew checking in.

Hydra will do everything that the MS3 will do, and it's nowhere near as inexpensive as the MS3 is.

MBC FOR THE WIN!!

Hydra crew checking out.
Old 05-22-2014 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Reverant
That specific example is totally wrong; all the MS2s and MS3s support CAN bus, in fact there are many devices supporting the MS CAN Bus system (ie AiM MXL, Racepak, etc).
The specific use of CAN bus that I'd been told was a big deal on the Hydra was that it could drive the NC's instrument cluster. I dunno, I don't own an NC and have no plans to buy one, so I didn't pay that much attention. If the MS2/3 can do that, then I stand corrected and I apologize for the misinformation.

I have a Hydra 2.5 in my car now, bought it ages ago when it was the only plug-in-no-wiring-harness-hackery-required solution on the market for an NB. I also have a Reverant MS3 sitting on the shelf waiting to go in the car as soon as I get around to it, basically for all of the reasons mentioned in this thread. It would've been a thousand bucks to upgrade it to 2.7 (mine was originally a 2.1 unit, so it's old).

--Ian
Old 05-22-2014 | 08:35 PM
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It's a good idea to go to the DIYautotune.com and download TunerStudio.

Open the program and play with it, and the software.

It will give you a much better idea of what you've been reading about. Should help give a clear picture of the MS jibberish.
Old 05-23-2014 | 05:48 AM
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MS uses a proprietary CANBUS protocol, which dash/clusters etc need to support to speak to it.

However the latest beta firmwares for MS2/MS3 support the standard 11bit CANBUS broadcast protocol, so will work with pretty much anything.
Old 05-23-2014 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by richyvrlimited
However the latest beta firmwares for MS2/MS3 support the standard 11bit CANBUS broadcast protocol, so will work with pretty much anything.
Oooohhh!! That means easy track data acquisition! That would be enough to finally wean me off of 1st generation MSPNPs. LOL.
Old 06-07-2014 | 11:26 AM
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Let me encourage you that the megasquirt is very doable. I had NO experience with any kind of tuning anything, and between all the forums got my old project car up and running, and it didn't have the plug n play support the miata does.
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