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Old 10-14-2012 | 04:21 PM
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turbo intake?
Old 10-14-2012 | 04:31 PM
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Frankly, the car drives amazingly as is. The only thing I'd want is longer gears and a higher redline.
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If you only make 550whp at that psi then there is zero hope for me to break 600 with my s366 at the same psi. *****.
I will know in a couple of months!
Old 10-14-2012 | 07:29 PM
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turbo intake?
Short runners, big plenum, etc.
Old 10-14-2012 | 08:11 PM
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putting a short runner mani on this car would be incredibly stupid

we're all drooling at his torque under curve and you're suggesting he reduce it? lol
Old 10-15-2012 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pdexta
Awesome numbers, congrats.

Fae said "stock crappy 1.8 head" is that a NA head? 99-00? 01+? I guess I need to go study your build thread, I want my car to be just like yours when it grows up.
Yeah it's a 99-00 head I picked up from a junkyard. The only thing I did to it was machine the head surface flat.

I have a VVT head in garage and while sure, I may not necessary pick anything up from just having VVT vs 99 head - the purpose with the VVT head is to build/port it for a higher revlimiter and better flow.
Old 10-15-2012 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
turbo intake?
I want a nice intake but its the lowest priority item right now. Gotpsi IM is close to $1000 and I'd rather spend that money on tires
Old 10-15-2012 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by soviet
I want a nice intake but its the lowest priority item right now. Gotpsi IM is close to $1000 and I need to spend that money on tires
FTFY

This would just get that much more crazy with VVT. If you had to guess and without becoming physically ill, how far into this build are you dollar wise?
Old 10-15-2012 | 01:32 PM
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Is the boost rising to redline? Just wondering what's keeping torque up as typically the stock manifold was "blamed" for torque drop post peak with rpm rise.
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I'm very interested in this too. But then usually its not just torque drop that others experience. Its power drop too. This thing does neither
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So with the VVT, are people actually noticing HP difference? I just don't understand why the factory didn't use it on the Speed Miata (Mazda hasn't always been known for good decisions, so this might've been another case!) My 99 head is ported for my engine and so on, but just for future since the engine will be rebuilt once a year at least anyways.
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VVT does nothing past 3 or 4k rpm iirc
Just lowend/spool
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Originally Posted by 18psi
putting a short runner mani on this car would be incredibly stupid

we're all drooling at his torque under curve and you're suggesting he reduce it? lol

this. I probably wouldn't change a thing as far as the IM is concerned... Has great spool for the turbo size and holds very well to redline.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
VVT does nothing past 3 or 4k rpm iirc
Just lowend/spool
Alright, basically where I won't be on the track! I just like to simplify the car as much as possible!
Old 10-15-2012 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by m2cupcar
Is the boost rising to redline? Just wondering what's keeping torque up as typically the stock manifold was "blamed" for torque drop post peak with rpm rise.
EBC holds boost to redline - flat like Keira Knightley. Addressing the torque drop in high rpm was most important to me. Here's the things I've changed:
- obviously bigger compressor wheel with different compressor map
- VICS works and activates at 5000
- magic timing map made by Faeflora, with timing ramping up about 6* from 5.5k to redline
- sacrificed a goat??

Originally Posted by bcrx7
So with the VVT, are people actually noticing HP difference? I just don't understand why the factory didn't use it on the Speed Miata (Mazda hasn't always been known for good decisions, so this might've been another case!) My 99 head is ported for my engine and so on, but just for future since the engine will be rebuilt once a year at least anyways.
My reasoning for using VVT in future is not "VVT is magical" but "if I'm going to spend $$$ on a head, might as well be a VVT head"
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Originally Posted by EO2K
If you had to guess and without becoming physically ill, how far into this build are you dollar wise?
I think I'm at $20k for everything including the car, and there's a good chunk of money in suspension/brakes/tires - non-turbo stuff, basically.
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Originally Posted by soviet
- magic timing map made by Faeflora, with timing ramping up about 6* from 5.5k to redline

have you tuned the timing latency?
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Originally Posted by Braineack
have you tuned the timing latency?
I'm on a 36-1T trigger wheel, what latency?
Old 10-15-2012 | 03:59 PM
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HAve you checked if the timing retards as the RPMs increase? should do it with the timing locked and using a timing light. This is part of the proceedure during initial setup.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
HAve you checked if the timing retards as the RPMs increase? should do it with the timing locked and using a timing light. This is part of the proceedure during initial setup.
Nope, haven't checked and already took off timing plastic plate thingy. Timing latency is only an issue if you're using a CAS for primary tach signal. Stretchy timing belt and all.



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