Turbinetech manifolds
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Stumbled across these guys on the webz:
Stainless steel manifold MSM
Interesting arrangement.
This is more conventional:
Hi-performance manifold that we designed to be a direct replacement for the stock 323GTX cast manifold. All 4 runners are equal in length.
Welds don't look as nice as Tim's. Don't know if it would work for 1.6 Miatas, but interesting.
I'm not affiliated or recommending anything, but I thought I'd seen it all, then found this. Searched here and the prefab forum and didn't find any references to this company.
Stainless steel manifold MSM
Interesting arrangement.
This is more conventional:
Hi-performance manifold that we designed to be a direct replacement for the stock 323GTX cast manifold. All 4 runners are equal in length.
Welds don't look as nice as Tim's. Don't know if it would work for 1.6 Miatas, but interesting.
I'm not affiliated or recommending anything, but I thought I'd seen it all, then found this. Searched here and the prefab forum and didn't find any references to this company.
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HAHA that's right. Well technically it might work that way since its still routed post turbo. Its still on backwards though.
To be honest I really don't care much for "one off" as much as "best flowing". If money is not an issue of course![wink](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/wink.gif)
This one looks like its got more bends and weirdness. The absurdflow is such a simple yet effective design that I doubt many manifolds would outflow it. Or at least significantly outflow it. Sometimes the simplest designs work the best
To be honest I really don't care much for "one off" as much as "best flowing". If money is not an issue of course
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This one looks like its got more bends and weirdness. The absurdflow is such a simple yet effective design that I doubt many manifolds would outflow it. Or at least significantly outflow it. Sometimes the simplest designs work the best
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HAHA that's right. Well technically it might work that way since its still routed post turbo. Its still on backwards though.
To be honest I really don't care much for "one off" as much as "best flowing". If money is not an issue of course![wink](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/wink.gif)
This one looks like its got more bends and weirdness. The absurdflow is such a simple yet effective design that I doubt many manifolds would outflow it. Or at least significantly outflow it. Sometimes the simplest designs work the best
To be honest I really don't care much for "one off" as much as "best flowing". If money is not an issue of course
![wink](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/wink.gif)
This one looks like its got more bends and weirdness. The absurdflow is such a simple yet effective design that I doubt many manifolds would outflow it. Or at least significantly outflow it. Sometimes the simplest designs work the best
i have always had a thing for crazy looking **** like that.
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i wasnt doubting absurd's products! i would proudly run one of there manifolds........im just saying if i had the cash to drop on somthing, i would go to an expert on building custom manifolds, and get a work of art made without compromising function!
i have always had a thing for crazy looking **** like that.
i have always had a thing for crazy looking **** like that.
For people who actually drive a car, like a man, and are trying to go fast we like these ideas. I don't need a roller-coaster pipe manifold. I need a manifold that stays together with a proper flange and a fabricator that stands behind his work unequivocally. I wish I had given him money a few years sooner...I would enjoy my car much more than I do now.
I know people with Full Race manifolds on Honda's who have the same problem I had 3-months ago.
Apparently there's a short list of people who can fatigue-test a manifold...unfortunately I'm on this list.
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I had an opportunity to look at an AMS v-band manifold for their robot welds are awesome. The stuff they put on racecars is 2nd to none. When I compare it to my AF manifold its evident that I scored one hell of a deal.
However...AMS apparently has multiple "classes" of fabrication that they don't sell on their website, that the send out for racecars.
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^ AMS is just saying they have parts that are on another level that you dont see on there site, like there million dollar manifold that puts a 40r behind the front bumper on the passenger side. there standard kits show up looking exactly like they do on the site. For 4k you will be hard pressed to find a higher quality turbo kit.
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I know of turbinetech from my days with our turbo Suzuki Swift GT. And that's all I'll say about that.
$699CAD = $663USD. My "standard" low mount/centerd manifold runs from $497 for a mild steel T2 flanged version (paul, artie) to extimated $693 for a sch. 40 stainless v-band manifold (once the ones that are already made for Sav, Hustler, & snowboarder get more track hours on them to see if they will last). I guarantee my stuff from cracking/breaking so if the stainless doesn't work out, they are all getting nice new mild steel manifolds or their money back.
I have 2 other BP manifold styles too (BEGI/FM replacement manifold & A/C P/S friendly low mount), plus the twins and maybe a MSM manifold if I find a buyer for that.
I could do a medusa type "equal length" manifold but #1 I think they are not as good and #2 you can buy them from other fabricators.
AMS' robotic welds are simple amazing, and they are very nice guys over there.
$699CAD = $663USD. My "standard" low mount/centerd manifold runs from $497 for a mild steel T2 flanged version (paul, artie) to extimated $693 for a sch. 40 stainless v-band manifold (once the ones that are already made for Sav, Hustler, & snowboarder get more track hours on them to see if they will last). I guarantee my stuff from cracking/breaking so if the stainless doesn't work out, they are all getting nice new mild steel manifolds or their money back.
I have 2 other BP manifold styles too (BEGI/FM replacement manifold & A/C P/S friendly low mount), plus the twins and maybe a MSM manifold if I find a buyer for that.
I could do a medusa type "equal length" manifold but #1 I think they are not as good and #2 you can buy them from other fabricators.
AMS' robotic welds are simple amazing, and they are very nice guys over there.
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I'm very well aware of others. I'm talking about design or the manifold: yes I absolutely love absurdflow. So simple yet effective. There are lots of companies out there. They make this spaghetti clusterfuck stuff that makes absolutely no sense to me. I could care less about that stuff. Give me function over form.
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I know one...Boostlogic, and John and I have been working on a car with that manifold all year. There is no one else out there "proving" turbo manifolds other than about 5 people, and they're all on this board.
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Even for us non track ***** it wouldn't make sense to buy this turbinetech ****. Look at the path of the runners:
![](http://www.turbinetech.ca/fichiers/p1010006___142___prod.jpg)
1 and 4 are somewhat decent, though just as slanted right after flange as my homemade mani which is twice smaller and more compact, so flow should be about the same.
Now look at 2 and 3. HORRIBLE. They both take a SHARP 90* awful looking bend. How the **** is this thing supposed to flow good?
Now I'm no expert so If I'm wrong someone correct me. But this makes much more sense to me:
![](http://www.absurdflow.com/miata/acpst2/acpst2build5.jpg)
No sharp bends, no weird loops, no bullshit. Just straight smooth runners from head to turbo.
Now if for whatever reason you MUST have the long runners id at least get something like this:
![](http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d188/adf2005/ac-manifold.jpg)
Very large but at least looks like it would flow well.
The MSM manifold looks just as stupid in design:
WHY point the hotside away from the head like that? It just makes for more bends and weirder looking downpipe. Just making it more complicated than it needs to be. Look at runners 2-3. Again they make them take a weird path for no good reason. Makes no sense to me.
![](http://www.turbinetech.ca/fichiers/p1010006___142___prod.jpg)
1 and 4 are somewhat decent, though just as slanted right after flange as my homemade mani which is twice smaller and more compact, so flow should be about the same.
Now look at 2 and 3. HORRIBLE. They both take a SHARP 90* awful looking bend. How the **** is this thing supposed to flow good?
Now I'm no expert so If I'm wrong someone correct me. But this makes much more sense to me:
![](http://www.absurdflow.com/miata/acpst2/acpst2build5.jpg)
No sharp bends, no weird loops, no bullshit. Just straight smooth runners from head to turbo.
Now if for whatever reason you MUST have the long runners id at least get something like this:
![](http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d188/adf2005/ac-manifold.jpg)
Very large but at least looks like it would flow well.
The MSM manifold looks just as stupid in design:
WHY point the hotside away from the head like that? It just makes for more bends and weirder looking downpipe. Just making it more complicated than it needs to be. Look at runners 2-3. Again they make them take a weird path for no good reason. Makes no sense to me.