MK Turbo Kit Drop-In Upgrade
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Also guys, either way I came here to ask a specific question, the additional information and advice is AWESOME and I appreciate it, but it deviates from the information I seek:
Would having a T3 Ford housing on a T2-framed small turbo significantly negatively affect spool and transient response in a noticeable way? Or would I be better off changing the manifold and using a T2 flange with a T2-framed turbo?
Would having a T3 Ford housing on a T2-framed small turbo significantly negatively affect spool and transient response in a noticeable way? Or would I be better off changing the manifold and using a T2 flange with a T2-framed turbo?
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Right now your turbo ain't spooling ****, BECAUSE YOUR MOTOR IS FUCKED!
Judge the turbo and upgrade as necessary after you put the new motor in.
The current turbo might not be the best, sure, a GTX will probably be better. But you could put a magical fantasy turbo on there, insta spool, plus massive flow, with zero heat, but your engine will run it like crap, BECAUSE YOUR MOTOR IS FUCKED!
We're trying to get you to see a point here. Go back and read every reply, see if you can pick up on it.
Judge the turbo and upgrade as necessary after you put the new motor in.
The current turbo might not be the best, sure, a GTX will probably be better. But you could put a magical fantasy turbo on there, insta spool, plus massive flow, with zero heat, but your engine will run it like crap, BECAUSE YOUR MOTOR IS FUCKED!
We're trying to get you to see a point here. Go back and read every reply, see if you can pick up on it.
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Right now your turbo ain't spooling ****, BECAUSE YOUR MOTOR IS FUCKED!
Judge the turbo and upgrade as necessary after you put the new motor in.
The current turbo might not be the best, sure, a GTX will probably be better. But you could put a magical fantasy turbo on there, insta spool, plus massive flow, with zero heat, but your engine will run it like crap, BECAUSE YOUR MOTOR IS FUCKED!
We're trying to get you to see a point here. Go back and read every reply, see if you can pick up on it.
Judge the turbo and upgrade as necessary after you put the new motor in.
The current turbo might not be the best, sure, a GTX will probably be better. But you could put a magical fantasy turbo on there, insta spool, plus massive flow, with zero heat, but your engine will run it like crap, BECAUSE YOUR MOTOR IS FUCKED!
We're trying to get you to see a point here. Go back and read every reply, see if you can pick up on it.
Please, tell me more about how my motor is in a worn state and is in need of replacement, which is already on the way, and repeat off-topic information already stated in previous posts that I've already read!
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I came to this thread with the goal of asking a specific question regarding the relationship between boost threshold/transient response and flange size in relation to the frame of the turbo.
I didn't come here asking about my engine.
I didn't come asking about how capable the turbo is on the MK Turbo Kit.
I didn't come asking whether or not I have a problem with my tune or a defective turbo
I did not ask ANY question other than "how would the response be using a T3 Ford turbine housing from ATP on a GT28-framed turbo compared to the standard Garrett housing?"
ANY reply that isn't an answer to that question is off-topic and doesn't contribute anything towards achieving that goal.
Yes, I am aware of the problems with my engine. Yes, I am aware that once the new engine is in, the MK turbo may respond in the manner that I am expecting. Yes, I am fully aware of everything that has been stated in this thread. I have not gained any new knowledge in this thread. At all.
I see this may not be the right place to get an answer to this question, so I will seek this information elsewhere.
I didn't come here asking about my engine.
I didn't come asking about how capable the turbo is on the MK Turbo Kit.
I didn't come asking whether or not I have a problem with my tune or a defective turbo
I did not ask ANY question other than "how would the response be using a T3 Ford turbine housing from ATP on a GT28-framed turbo compared to the standard Garrett housing?"
ANY reply that isn't an answer to that question is off-topic and doesn't contribute anything towards achieving that goal.
Yes, I am aware of the problems with my engine. Yes, I am aware that once the new engine is in, the MK turbo may respond in the manner that I am expecting. Yes, I am fully aware of everything that has been stated in this thread. I have not gained any new knowledge in this thread. At all.
I see this may not be the right place to get an answer to this question, so I will seek this information elsewhere.
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I am going to give you a clue.
This place works different than you think. The answer you seek is most likely that it won't make any difference. Nobody wants to state this because "most likely" doesn't mean ****. We aren't going to tell you what we aren't sure about, if we happen to feel like spoon feeding you at all.
The real answer is get your new motor in, get your swapped t3 housing Garrett, show us some logs and stop whining. Then you will know for sure, we will probably still be skeptical tho, especially after this thread. Maybe if a few other folks do the same we would answer with more confidence in the future.
That is how this place works.
This place works different than you think. The answer you seek is most likely that it won't make any difference. Nobody wants to state this because "most likely" doesn't mean ****. We aren't going to tell you what we aren't sure about, if we happen to feel like spoon feeding you at all.
The real answer is get your new motor in, get your swapped t3 housing Garrett, show us some logs and stop whining. Then you will know for sure, we will probably still be skeptical tho, especially after this thread. Maybe if a few other folks do the same we would answer with more confidence in the future.
That is how this place works.
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I came to this thread with the goal of asking a specific question regarding the relationship between boost threshold/transient response and flange size in relation to the frame of the turbo.
I didn't come here asking about my engine.
I didn't come asking about how capable the turbo is on the MK Turbo Kit.
I didn't come asking whether or not I have a problem with my tune or a defective turbo
I did not ask ANY question other than "how would the response be using a T3 Ford turbine housing from ATP on a GT28-framed turbo compared to the standard Garrett housing?"
ANY reply that isn't an answer to that question is off-topic and doesn't contribute anything towards achieving that goal.
Yes, I am aware of the problems with my engine. Yes, I am aware that once the new engine is in, the MK turbo may respond in the manner that I am expecting. Yes, I am fully aware of everything that has been stated in this thread. I have not gained any new knowledge in this thread. At all.
I see this may not be the right place to get an answer to this question, so I will seek this information elsewhere.
I didn't come here asking about my engine.
I didn't come asking about how capable the turbo is on the MK Turbo Kit.
I didn't come asking whether or not I have a problem with my tune or a defective turbo
I did not ask ANY question other than "how would the response be using a T3 Ford turbine housing from ATP on a GT28-framed turbo compared to the standard Garrett housing?"
ANY reply that isn't an answer to that question is off-topic and doesn't contribute anything towards achieving that goal.
Yes, I am aware of the problems with my engine. Yes, I am aware that once the new engine is in, the MK turbo may respond in the manner that I am expecting. Yes, I am fully aware of everything that has been stated in this thread. I have not gained any new knowledge in this thread. At all.
I see this may not be the right place to get an answer to this question, so I will seek this information elsewhere.
#31
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I am going to give you a clue.
This place works different than you think. The answer you seek is most likely that it won't make any difference. Nobody wants to state this because "most likely" doesn't mean ****. We aren't going to tell you what we aren't sure about, if we happen to feel like spoon feeding you at all.
The real answer is get your new motor in, get your swapped t3 housing Garrett, show us some logs and stop whining. Then you will know for sure, we will probably still be skeptical tho, especially after this thread. Maybe if a few other folks do the same we would answer with more confidence in the future.
That is how this place works.
This place works different than you think. The answer you seek is most likely that it won't make any difference. Nobody wants to state this because "most likely" doesn't mean ****. We aren't going to tell you what we aren't sure about, if we happen to feel like spoon feeding you at all.
The real answer is get your new motor in, get your swapped t3 housing Garrett, show us some logs and stop whining. Then you will know for sure, we will probably still be skeptical tho, especially after this thread. Maybe if a few other folks do the same we would answer with more confidence in the future.
That is how this place works.
And hey, if nobody's tried it yet and nobody's sure about it, that's fine too! Just say it! There's entirely no need to add a dozen off-topic replies before getting to the actual information. Maybe there's someone else out there looking for the same info and they'll stumble upon this thread and have to wade through a bunch of non-answers before getting the info.
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Every other kid in the world will "try it and report back". Like maybe one out of every thousand actually does. So pardon us for not even a little bit believing or caring.
You asked really dumb questions and skipped really important info, and then when we were nice enough to answer you didn't like it cause it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
If you don't want to be dismissed as a dreamer then go buy stuff and test stuff and report back. Bench racing and napkin math gets old.
You asked really dumb questions and skipped really important info, and then when we were nice enough to answer you didn't like it cause it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
If you don't want to be dismissed as a dreamer then go buy stuff and test stuff and report back. Bench racing and napkin math gets old.
#34
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Every other kid in the world will "try it and report back". Like maybe one out of every thousand actually does. So pardon us for not even a little bit believing or caring.
You asked really dumb questions and skipped really important info, and then when we were nice enough to answer you didn't like it cause it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
If you don't want to be dismissed as a dreamer then go buy stuff and test stuff and report back. Bench racing and napkin math gets old.
You asked really dumb questions and skipped really important info, and then when we were nice enough to answer you didn't like it cause it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
If you don't want to be dismissed as a dreamer then go buy stuff and test stuff and report back. Bench racing and napkin math gets old.
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