Holset 35
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Here's how you do it:
1: PICK A POWER GOAL!
2: SET A BUDGET!
3: ASSESS YOUR SKILLZ!
Ensure that 1-2-3 are compatible, if not, revise until all are in line, then spreadsheet a build plan.
4: BUY PARTS!
Guys who start out "Will this turbo work on a Miata" are starting at the end of the problem. "Will this $150 turbo that will make 350whp I got from a buddy work after I spend $1500 on a custom DP and Manifold and $6k on a built motor?" It's ******* backwards guys!!! Buying parts should be the last thing you do, not the first... and starting a build around one part that happens to be lying around the house that's the cheapest thing in the whole equation is a recipe for disappointment.
1: PICK A POWER GOAL!
2: SET A BUDGET!
3: ASSESS YOUR SKILLZ!
Ensure that 1-2-3 are compatible, if not, revise until all are in line, then spreadsheet a build plan.
4: BUY PARTS!
Guys who start out "Will this turbo work on a Miata" are starting at the end of the problem. "Will this $150 turbo that will make 350whp I got from a buddy work after I spend $1500 on a custom DP and Manifold and $6k on a built motor?" It's ******* backwards guys!!! Buying parts should be the last thing you do, not the first... and starting a build around one part that happens to be lying around the house that's the cheapest thing in the whole equation is a recipe for disappointment.
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Custom down pipe will cost approximately $300 bulleseye make a adapter for the downpipe where you can use a v-band clamp the turbo is t3 flange problem solved there. $900 buck for rod,piston,metal head gasket,and arp head studs. I Think I can buid my bottom end get all the turbo parts and engine management for less than 2k. I not using a mazda ecu anyways I am going with a cheaper better route than any aftermarket company provides for mazda still a secret you guys would call me retarded and tell me it won't work but I know it will. You said 6k for a built engine I can put a turbo ls1 in a miata for that. If any one is any good with tuning and are interested with my ideas on a new cheaper route to engine management system pm me for info.
Ah **** we have another peter pan.
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Do you even know who Peter Pan I am referring to is, or why I even called you Peter Pan?? Or even better do you have the new holy grail that must not be spoken of or ever shown because it is so amazing that it will blow are little minds away.
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I think you guys aren't giving BoostedR a chance. I'm not one to do things the same way as everyone else. I'm always interested in innovation. I'm sure that the first guy that said "I want to put water injection on my Miata" was dissed.
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If he got such an amazing special secret holy grail of a unit then why not just post it. This cheaper better route then any aftermarket company BS is well just BS crap. Really if he found something cheaper then a MS that can really do everything an MS can, how is no one has heard of it. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck. I am calling it a duck until proven otherwise
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I'd like more info and less teasing as well. That is somewhat silly.
BoostedR should start a new thread regarding his ideas about a new ecu option including why it should work, problems to overcome, and solutions. After all, we do have quite a few electrical engineering and computer geek types on this forum. We like to ponder and discuss this stuff. We are already here because we are interested in DIY options.
BoostedR should start a new thread regarding his ideas about a new ecu option including why it should work, problems to overcome, and solutions. After all, we do have quite a few electrical engineering and computer geek types on this forum. We like to ponder and discuss this stuff. We are already here because we are interested in DIY options.
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There's no reason you can't post ECU hookup here. If you know something we don't then share... no need to keep secrets. A Megasquirt standalone with LC1 and injectors is a $500-$600 proposition... so cheap ECU's are all the rage around here, I know Emilio was working on something.
Anyways, I think you're still working this problem mostly backwards. You'll also need to consider what the car is going to be used for and upgrading the rest of the OEM components that won't cut it at the power levels you'll be reaching. Keep doing your homework and start spilling the beans on the ECU you've got tucked away.
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If he got such an amazing special secret holy grail of a unit then why not just post it. This cheaper better route then any aftermarket company BS is well just BS crap. Really if he found something cheaper then a MS that can really do everything an MS can, how is no one has heard of it. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck. I am calling it a duck until proven otherwise
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Dude.. you really didn't lurk on his forum long enough . I would say half of the people on this forum are all about low budget self build, trial and error system. Just like at the whole MS sub section. OR even better go back way in the day before the MS became popular and people were building o2 clamps with parts from Radio Shack.
Or even look at now. How many people are working on trying to build MS for the NBs.
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However, first and foremost, STFU. There’s a hierarchy here and we don’t really care if you like it or not…but be careful because one of us might beat your ******* *** for wasting out precious bandwidth. You will not come into this forum and run your typing horse-**** about how you think you’re smart and how you’ve had a man in your mouth but you’re “not gay.” So next time you think about typing you may want to ask yourself what you’re going to do when you **** off Suge Night’s cousin, because I don’t take kindly to disrespect. Easy does it.
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Yeah, we're talking about a nearly 21-year old car...no one has ever done any of this **** before. You're the very first person to try this and show everyone how much they don't know. How ******* innovative?!?!?
However, first and foremost, STFU. There’s a hierarchy here and we don’t really care if you like it or not…but be careful because one of us might beat your ******* *** for wasting out precious bandwidth. You will not come into this forum and run your typing horse-**** about how you think you’re smart and how you’ve had a man in your mouth but you’re “not gay.” So next time you think about typing you may want to ask yourself what you’re going to do when you **** off Suge Night’s cousin, because I don’t take kindly to disrespect. Easy does it.
However, first and foremost, STFU. There’s a hierarchy here and we don’t really care if you like it or not…but be careful because one of us might beat your ******* *** for wasting out precious bandwidth. You will not come into this forum and run your typing horse-**** about how you think you’re smart and how you’ve had a man in your mouth but you’re “not gay.” So next time you think about typing you may want to ask yourself what you’re going to do when you **** off Suge Night’s cousin, because I don’t take kindly to disrespect. Easy does it.
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Did you figure any machine work in to your build, you cant just slap new parts into and old block and expect it to work like a dream. I'm not trying to bash you just to help, wright down a list with prices before you start your build, Belfab racing has a engine kit that is reasonably priced for the budget minded.
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Dude.. you really didn't lurk on his forum long enough . I would say half of the people on this forum are all about low budget self build, trial and error system. Just like at the whole MS sub section. OR even better go back way in the day before the MS became popular and people were building o2 clamps with parts from Radio Shack.
Or even look at now. How many people are working on trying to build MS for the NBs.
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Or check out the build thread where I used the klystron from an old microwave oven to irradiate my fuel supply separate out the ethanol in blended gasoline. Or how I used a pump from an old dishwasher and a pressure switch from an oil pressure sending unit to make a water-injection system. Or how I used some of the electronics from an old VCR and actuators from a pinball machine to make a speed sensitive active aero system. No, we wouldn't be up for experimentation (just like my first wife, Louise).
holy ****.. I need to go look up your build thread..
but I also forget the guy that used a shop vac to prime his oil lines .
Yea we are all whine and cheerers. Heaven forbid we use a part that weren't designed for our almighty Miata. Cause you know the Miata is single handed the best sports car in the word and we won't want to use inferior parts on our rare and expensive cars
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I've changed my mind, you're a douche. Now speak and redeem yourself or go the **** away. Remember, in my first two posts, I tried to help.
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Did you figure any machine work in to your build, you cant just slap new parts into and old block and expect it to work like a dream. I'm not trying to bash you just to help, wright down a list with prices before you start your build, Belfab racing has a engine kit that is reasonably priced for the budget minded.
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Or check out the build thread where I used the klystron from an old microwave oven to irradiate my fuel supply separate out the ethanol in blended gasoline. Or how I used a pump from an old dishwasher and a pressure switch from an oil pressure sending unit to make a water-injection system. Or how I used some of the electronics from an old VCR and actuators from a pinball machine to make a speed sensitive active aero system. No, we wouldn't be up for experimentation (just like my first wife, Louise).
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I showed up with a check-card and came out with forged pistons, rods, blue-printed bottom end, fresh head with light porting, and every seal/gasket for $2100. All I did was buy **** and pay someone to put it together/ So not only are you a dumbfuck, but if you don't stop posting here I'm going to send a few of my hard-hittin ****** over to your crib to talk about your lack of respect and stupidity.
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I showed up with a check-card and came out with forged pistons, rods, blue-printed bottom end, fresh head with light porting, and every seal/gasket for $2100. All I did was buy **** and pay someone to put it together/ So not only are you a dumbfuck, but if you don't stop posting here I'm going to send a few of my hard-hittin ****** over to your crib to talk about your lack of respect and stupidity.
To the OP sorry for thread jacking. Everyone can we please move on and get back on subject to the Holset. If you guys want to discuss/argue my ideas just pm me or make a new thread but no threats. We are all grown me and should act it. We all come here for one reason for the love of cars.