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Old 12-11-2013 | 04:42 PM
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Looks like its finally out!

4 housing options, from $1855 for EWG to $2100 with IWG

BorgWarner EFR 7163 Turbo - Full-Race.com

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BorgWarner EFR 7163 Turbo

Brand new for 2014, The EFR 7163 is Borg Warner's newest addition to the EFR family.

Turbo Features:
  • Mixed Flow Gamma-Ti turbine wheel
  • Forged milled extended tip compressor wheel
  • Military-grade dual ceramic ball bearing assembly with silver plated metal cage
  • Stainless steel turbine housing
  • Water cooled Aluminum bearing housing
  • Large internal wastegate (optional)
  • Compressor recirculation valve (aka BOV)
  • Boost control solenoid valve
  • T25, T4 and V-Band Turbine Housing options to fit a variety of installations

Compressor Specifications
  • Compressor Type: Forged-Milled Wheel (FMW) Extended Tip
  • Compressor Wheel OD (exducer): 71mm
  • Compressor Wheel Inducer: 57mm
  • Max Flow Rate: 61 lb/min
  • Compressor Housing: 2.5" Ported shroud inlet, 2.0" hose coupler outlet
  • Built-in BOV: All EFR compressor housings incorporate an integrated BOV.
  • Connections:
  • Inlet: 2.5" Hose Coupler
  • Outlet: 2.0" Hose Coupler

Turbine Specifications
  • Turbine type: Low Inertia Gamma-Ti Turbine Wheel
  • Turbine Wheel OD: 64mm
  • Stainless Steel Sand cast Housing
  • The EFR 7163 is available in (4) different turbine housing configurations:
  • 0.85 A/R V-Band (Internal WG) - Part # 11639880006
  • 0.85 A/R V-Band (External WG)- Part # 11637105000 & 11631008003
  • 0.80 A/R T4 Twin Scroll (Internal WG)- Part # 11639880002
  • Turbine outlet: GT-Vband (aka small 3" vband) ~92mm OD for all EFR turbos
Old 12-11-2013 | 04:48 PM
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Why the dramatic price increase from the 6758?

Is there new tech on this one or is it just because its bigger?
Old 12-11-2013 | 04:59 PM
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You know what you have to do now
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Some Indy engineers told me they've had a lot of failures due to the Aluminum Bearing housing.

I wonder if that will be an issue on a street car?
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Originally Posted by Ryan_G
Why the dramatic price increase from the 6758?

Is there new tech on this one or is it just because its bigger?
Its just a little bit bigger. 7064 starts off at $2k btw.

What makes me excited wet is the twin scroll housing.
Old 12-11-2013 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
You know what you have to do now
Get a hew transmission before I do anything? lol
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If my 3.308 keeps traction under control, then I am going to be seriously looking at the 7163 T4 TS w/ QSV, if Abe can make a manifold that keeps PS and AC.
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I like the twin scroll with twin scroll manifold. QSV is for suckers.

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If my 3.308 keeps traction under control, then I am going to be seriously looking at the 7163 T4 TS w/ QSV, if Abe can make a manifold that keeps PS and AC.
Sure, but you won't be able to keep the hood
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It is also possible that the 6758 may be the best choice for me.
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I want to see more applications use their smaller turbos...
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Originally Posted by Braineack
I want to see more applications use their smaller turbos...
don't be lame.
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don't worry, I'm not.
Old 12-13-2013 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
I want to see more applications use their smaller turbos...
I want a twin-scroll v-band
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So when are you getting one soviet?
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Not anytime soon.
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I want pictures of v band inlet on IWG housing.
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I had a 7064 twinscroll on my 2.0L WRX. Frankly, too big for me. I realize I'm in the minority and not chasing dyno sheets.

I'm not ripping the 7163 at all. All of the EFR turbos are awesome. Just for this community, 6758 is about as big as I think we ought to go. Really, the 6258 is plenty. Our drivetrains can take it anyway.

If I was going to build another Subaru with a 2.5L, I'd be going 6258 all the way. I like a low torque setup. For the miata, I wish they made a slightly smaller option. Just my 2 cents. V-band in and out. That's what I was holding out for on my next Suby build.
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The 6258 is "too small" for the 2.5. Its not going to make noticably better low end than the 6758.



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