Disable turbo on demand.
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So been trying to find a way to manually open the wastegate on demand to help mpgs...freeer exhaust flow...no boost etc. I've looked at boost controllers and correct me if i'm wrong however those need some pressure to open the wastegate. Anybody have any idea for anything that can be used to open the wastegate on demand (other than full boost lol)?
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Heh i know that however i'm running with the wastegate disconnected at the moment and i'm hitting 27 mpgs when i was hitting 19 with the wastegate connected ![](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Its hard to stay in low vacuum like you can with the wg opened up..
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Its hard to stay in low vacuum like you can with the wg opened up..
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I would get 17-19mpg on mine when I constantly romped on it. But thats with 1k's, and e85. With some restraint it would be 25-29 without much hassle.....You can always install a low boost cut to remind yourself to take it easy lol.
the whole wastegate idea is not terrible but just sounds way more effort than its worth....I mean at cheapest you're looking to spend a few hundred on some type of wastegate and then another few hundred to plumb it all in.....to save a few mpg
the whole wastegate idea is not terrible but just sounds way more effort than its worth....I mean at cheapest you're looking to spend a few hundred on some type of wastegate and then another few hundred to plumb it all in.....to save a few mpg
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I get average 28mpg with my car, that's with occassional 7psi pulls, and I definately see about 3 psi between shifts just driving it to work. If you want to manually actuate your WG flapper, perhaps you could use a manual choke cable attached to the flapper arm? It might work. You could pull it out and somehow lock it in place to keep the flapper open, and then when you push it in to close the flapper, the wastegate actuator would control the pressure.
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^ this.
My '92 averages 29-29 MPG on the highway if I've got the top up and am at least within plausible deniability distance of the speed limit. Compare that to 21-22 MPG in town if I'm hot-******* it.
Unless it's a GT1241, merely having a turbo inline with the exhaust should have absolutely zero measurable effect on your fuel economy.
?!?!?!
Staying in vacuum is easy, just don't press the throttle all the way to the floor.
I'm not being sarcastic here. If you're in boost, then you're accelerating. Rapidly. What you are saying simply does not make sense.
My '92 averages 29-29 MPG on the highway if I've got the top up and am at least within plausible deniability distance of the speed limit. Compare that to 21-22 MPG in town if I'm hot-******* it.
Unless it's a GT1241, merely having a turbo inline with the exhaust should have absolutely zero measurable effect on your fuel economy.
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Its hard to stay in low vacuum like you can with the wg opened up
Staying in vacuum is easy, just don't press the throttle all the way to the floor.
I'm not being sarcastic here. If you're in boost, then you're accelerating. Rapidly. What you are saying simply does not make sense.
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This is very true. I had to run my stock ecu one time and I wired the WG flapper open. The vacuum gauge went towards zero a lot faster than it did at partial throttle than with the WG not wired open at partial throttle. I'm no scientist, but I think it's because the turbo spooling slightly in vacuum causes there to be less throttle to be aplied to move the car. In other words, the more the throttle body is opened, the closer to zero the vacuum gauge will go. A turbocharger increases the volumetric efficiency of the engine, which is why you will actually get better fuel mileage out of boost with a turbo than with natural aspiration.
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Pre-turbo I got 22mpg around town, 25mpg highway. Post-turbo I got 16mpg around town, 25mpg highway. Best ever was 30 highway, worst ever was 12mpg highway.
Keep your foot out of it and your mileage will go up. Drive like a dick and it will drop. Simple as that.
Keep your foot out of it and your mileage will go up. Drive like a dick and it will drop. Simple as that.
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If saving fuel is that much of an issue, why not walk or ride a bicycle instead. 2 miles is not that far at all.
Disconnecting your turbo WG isn't the answer.
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I get 24mpg going 85-95 with a few burts of 130mph...while pulling a 300lb trailer. Without the trailer I've seen 34mpg and this was calculated with googlemaps because my speedo no worky.
You need to tune it lean, I run 15.6-16.1 in cruise, with a ton of advance. Another win for low compression.
You need to tune it lean, I run 15.6-16.1 in cruise, with a ton of advance. Another win for low compression.
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I get 24mpg going 85-95 with a few burts of 130mph...while pulling a 300lb trailer. Without the trailer I've seen 34mpg and this was calculated with googlemaps because my speedo no worky.
You need to tune it lean, I run 15.6-16.1 in cruise, with a ton of advance. Another win for low compression.
You need to tune it lean, I run 15.6-16.1 in cruise, with a ton of advance. Another win for low compression.
You can tune that lean with shitloads of adavnce even with high compression when at low load i.e. cruising.
16.5:1 and 40+deg advance here on an otherwise stock 2001 engine.
Low comp actually hurts your mpg, but your turbine makes up for the loss in engine VE.
Your setup on a higher compression engine would yield better MPG, but much lower power when at WOT.
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Tune it.
I had a small hotside turbo, and a 100mi commute to school, and still consistently got over 30mpg. That's with some "idiot" driving thrown in.
Turbo seemed to boost economy even in vacuum, giving more torque for smaller throttle positions, and with MS you can shoot for low to mid 16:1 AFRs. Win.
I had a small hotside turbo, and a 100mi commute to school, and still consistently got over 30mpg. That's with some "idiot" driving thrown in.
Turbo seemed to boost economy even in vacuum, giving more torque for smaller throttle positions, and with MS you can shoot for low to mid 16:1 AFRs. Win.