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89roadster 11-02-2010 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by shlammed (Post 651241)
Thread revival!

Ordered the plugs from this company today... excited to do it properly without splicing.

Useful thread.... now to sift through the whole thing when i get time...

Matt

good to hear it! make sure you do some pics etc when you have time - i would love to see this all solved as a plug in and easily replaced setup!

shlammed 11-12-2010 12:53 PM

The plugs came in yesterday (slow due to customs and shipping choice to canada... they shipped next day)

The plugs fit nice and are of a good quality, but they are white.

Im going to try to dye them black and see how that goes.

They fit well and seem to be of a good quality.

poobs 11-12-2010 01:35 PM

Why don't you just wrap/cover the plugs with heat shrink or something?.

olderguy 11-12-2010 03:23 PM

Rattlecan after they are in.

shlammed 11-12-2010 03:57 PM

i googled dying plastic and people do this with their paintball gun junk.

get some vinyl dye and the plastic will absorb it.

or paint... but its not that flexible...

olderguy 11-12-2010 05:37 PM

Depends on what type plastic it is whether it will accept dye. Nylon will.

thasac 11-12-2010 08:09 PM

yup ... and I'm doubtful they would mold those plugs w/ nylon given it's properties - probably some run-of-the-mill ABS/ABS blend which can't be dyed to my knowledge.

-Zach

BoostedTrixx 11-17-2010 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by shlammed (Post 656469)
i googled dying plastic and people do this with their paintball gun junk.

get some vinyl dye and the plastic will absorb it.

or paint... but its not that flexible...



My question, is the capacitor for 1.6 cars only or 1.8s as well? I didnt see any specific info on where to put it, just basically to add it to the 12v source and the ground? I am assuming thats 1 inline of each? Will someone elaborate or have a pic for me? As far as the 1.8 cars go, I was slightly confused on which coilpack harness you splice into...is the other left untouched?

Golferluke 11-17-2010 12:43 PM

I didn't put the resistor on mine so I can't be much help there but you tap into both coil pack harnesses. If you need help with it I have a crude diagram I drew that helped me with keeping it all straight. If you like I'll post it up later.

BoostedTrixx 11-17-2010 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Golferluke (Post 658525)
I didn't put the resistor on mine so I can't be much help there but you tap into both coil pack harnesses. If you need help with it I have a crude diagram I drew that helped me with keeping it all straight. If you like I'll post it up later.

can you PM it to me?

BoostedTrixx 11-21-2010 04:16 PM

Do you need to run one capacitor or two? What happens if you don't run one at all, just curious?

poobs 11-21-2010 04:24 PM

There is no set number of capacitors but the prescribed capacitance was 10'000 uf.
Depending on the value of the capacitors that you, have you need to connect them in parallel for a total of 10'000uf.
If you have a single 10'000 uf capacitor you only need one. If you only have two 5'000 uf capacitirs then you need two and so on. I used two 4700 caps in mine.

I don't remember why the caps were added but I guess they are filters so if you don't have them there may be cases where the coils don't work properly (guess)

BoostedTrixx 11-21-2010 04:33 PM

Ok cool, no problems using the 2 4700s?

You wired them in parallel I assume. 1 on each power and ground for each coil pack connector?

poobs 11-21-2010 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by BoostedTrixx (Post 660073)
Ok cool, no problems using the 2 4700s?



You wired them in parallel I assume. 1 on each power and ground for each coil pack connector?

I actually ran the COPs with the stock ECU ( higher dwell ) and the resistor ground disconnected - no problems with that either...

I wired mine all together in a little Radio Shit project box and that box is wired close the harness. Not 1 for each coil pack.

I may find the limitations of the COP set up when I get my Greddy turbo up and running but right now I doubt that I even need plugs .

BoostedTrixx 11-21-2010 11:27 PM

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So I took my hand at trying to wire up some coil on plugs on my 94, I didnt wire in the capacitor, and I only used the power/ground/tach signal wire from 1 harness, and just the trigger wire from the other, do I need to run both the power/ground/tach wires from both harnesses or will 1 work?

The car turns over but doesnt start. I have a datalog attached of me trying to start the car.

Cranking dwell set at 5.5
running set at 2.5

Ninja Edit: Had the trigger wires crossed, switched and fired right up, anybody had any problems with not having the capacitors in? No so far yet, I am going to put some miles on the setup and see how things go.

BoostedTrixx 11-22-2010 06:07 AM

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Some pictures of my COP conversion, without the hold down plate done yet. Just got done tonight so sorry for the dirty unorganized engine bay. Any feedback let me know, feedback gives ideas to improvements. No capacitors were used.

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timk 11-22-2010 06:54 AM

Were those plugs genuine Toyota ones? It seems everyone has different colours!

BoostedTrixx 11-22-2010 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by saboteur (Post 660368)
Were those plugs genuine Toyota ones? It seems everyone has different colours!

yup, come off a Solara, got them on ebay with pigtails for around $75 shipped.

moonshadowmetals 11-22-2010 09:41 PM

When you tie a capacitor to ground you are trying to conduct some frequency to ground. If you have no problems now that does not mean that your circuit is not as clean as it can be. You should shunt the spike created by the discharge of the coils to ground to keep from having that noise spike induced into the rest of your electonics.

Golferluke 11-22-2010 11:13 PM

Glad you figured it out man, looks clean!


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