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poobs 11-19-2009 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by r808 (Post 484494)
^ +1 Thanks for all the info. It's only a matter of time before someone posts before and after dyno results.

That would be nice information :drool:

SolarYellow510 11-21-2009 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by poobs (Post 484537)
That would be nice information :drool:

Not likely to make a big difference on a stock car. With pretty much any other setup, the difference it makes will depend on many factors, some of which can be controlled to be representative (we can only hope they are, such as plug gap and condition) and some of which will be unique to the car, such as boost level, tune, richness, condition of stock ignition components (coils and wires), etc.

curly 11-21-2009 03:26 PM

Just got my connectors from the previously mentioned eBay seller. All four have approximately 3.235" sticking out. Three of the four are great, one has had it's clip broken off, but the rubber seal holds it in good enough for now. In fact I have one of the good ones clipped on, and I'm having difficulties getting it off. I'd rather pay $10 to buy a new one than go through the hassle of trying to get a replacement, the seller probably has some used part policy written out anyways.

If anyone's wondering, Toyota apparently wires their ground, trigger, and tachometer with 14 gauge, and the 12v with 12 gauge. I'm not sure if my gauges are right, I measured approximately .0825" for the 12v, and .0620" on the other three. Wikipedia says that's 14 and 12, however I think that doesn't include the insulation.

P.S. while writing this I did finally manage to get it off, had to use a screwdriver while I pinched with my fingers. My thumb now hurts.

SolarYellow510 11-30-2009 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by bompus (Post 477123)
Link to his items listing is eBay Seller: jarcocorpii: Car Truck Parts items on eBay Motors , should take you directly to all coils he has right now. I picked up 4 of the "TOYOTA COROLLA MATRIX CELICA MR2 IGNITION COIL 1ZZFE" (90080-19015) coils + plugs on them for $78 including 3-day shipping

That guy just quoted me $125.17 for four coils shipped. WTF?

ScottFW 11-30-2009 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 485403)
If anyone's wondering, Toyota apparently wires their ground, trigger, and tachometer with 14 gauge, and the 12v with 12 gauge. I'm not sure if my gauges are right, I measured approximately .0825" for the 12v, and .0620" on the other three. Wikipedia says that's 14 and 12, however I think that doesn't include the insulation.

Yeah I think the insulation is throwing off your measurements. My pigtails obviously came from different donor vehicles since the wire colors varied between them, but according to my wire strippers they all had 16 ga for the +12V, and 20 ga for the tach & trigger. For the ground, two connectors had 16 ga and two had 20 ga.


Originally Posted by SolarYellow510 (Post 488540)
That guy just quoted me $125.17 for four coils shipped. WTF?

I bought mine from the same seller back on Sept. 1 and it was $75 shipped for a set with the Toyota connectors/pigtails. At the time he had sets without the Toyota connectors for $60-ish. Maybe he's seen a spike in demand and raised his price? You could see if he'd bite on a lower offer. If not it might be time to hit up car-part.com or your local yard because $125 is crazy.

jangmiatat 12-01-2009 10:49 AM

I have a question about COP I have set of coil from 05 collora and the connector do I need to install dwell reducer or not or I could just wire it to old coil pack wire and then I'm good? help please!

miata2fast 12-01-2009 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by jangmiatat (Post 489031)
I have a question about COP I have set of coil from 05 collora and the connector do I need to install dwell reducer or not or I could just wire it to old coil pack wire and then I'm good? help please!

I wish I could help you on the question, but I am not familiar with cops.

I am responding to let you know that you really should go to the meet and greet section before you start posting elsewhere. Also, this is an old and long thread. Have you gone through this thread to see if the answer is in here You should do searches before asking questions. Be patient, there is a lot of useful info in here, but if you break the rules, you will pay a price for it. There is little tolerance of repeated questions that can be easily answered by doing searches here.

Go to the meet and greet. Tell us a little about yourself and car. If you have questions, search first, and then ask questions in the proper section.

Good luck

DreadedRed 12-01-2009 05:01 PM

I know everyone is into DIY solutions for everything but what about this: Boundary Engineering

A little expensive, I know, but seems like a pretty tight system, any opipions?

hustler 12-01-2009 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by DreadedRed (Post 489210)
I know everyone is into DIY solutions for everything but what about this: Boundary Engineering

A little expensive, I know, but seems like a pretty tight system, any opipions?

I thought you were a badass who owned Ducatis and a successful business? Oh wait, you're a lying sack of shit, and a bitch, and full of shit. :giggle:

AbeFM 12-07-2009 04:04 PM

You can always spend more on "better". The trick is to spend "enough" on each thing so the whole car has no weak links. A car with no weak links is infinitely better than a car with a 25 billion dollar engine and bad suspension.

SolarYellow510 12-16-2009 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by paul (Post 192806)
just a heads-up. i have a set of 90919-02244 that I first bought and they have 2 raised rings on them that prevent them from going down into the spark plug well. at least on my 99 heads.

Weird, I looked at a set of 90919-02244 coils at lunch today. Pulled the #1 wire off my '99 and stuffed one of the coils down the hole until it engaged on the plug, no problem.

Just scored four 90080-19015s on Ebay for $60 with free shipping. Cheaper than the local deal. Now, off I go to Ballenger Motorsports to get connectors.

Jfornachon 12-16-2009 02:03 AM

Is there anyone running a COP setup on the 01+ insted of the factory COP and wire setup? If so how was it wired?

Have a great day,
Jared

r808 12-30-2009 10:27 AM

My order for connectors from Ballenger Motorsports just shipped out today. I paid them 67 days ago. not a word on why the delay. I admit I only sent one followup message in that time period, but come on!

SolarYellow510 12-30-2009 10:30 AM

Mine, too. I actually proactively communicated with them, and know that they didn't get the connectors in from Japan until right about now. From the time they got the parts until they shipped was very short. It was the supplier in Japan taking forever.

spestis 01-03-2010 04:46 PM

2 Attachment(s)
I’m happy to say my COP’s have worked flawlessly for over 2 years now. However it never hurts to have a few extra ;)

greenday3437 01-04-2010 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by spestis (Post 503330)
I’m happy to say my COP’s have worked flawlessly for over 2 years now. However it never hurts to have a few extra ;)

dayum, sell me a set on the cheap :makeout:

r808 01-07-2010 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by greenday3437 (Post 503499)
dayum, sell me a set on the cheap :makeout:

What are you waiting for? He just shipped me a set after I saw this photo. They came in the mail fast and are in great condition.
Hopefully I will be putting them on next week.

greenday3437 01-08-2010 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by r808 (Post 505354)
What are you waiting for? He just shipped me a set after I saw this photo. They came in the mail fast and are in great condition.
Hopefully I will be putting them on next week.

Waiting for money haha, I got a lot of other shit I've been having to buy so the car will run, improvements like this over stock have to wait.

ctdrftna 01-09-2010 05:23 PM

i went to radio shack looking for a 10,000uf capacitor and the highest they had was 4300uf. and that thing was huge. can i see some pics of your capacitors installed and the size??

poobs 01-09-2010 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 506103)
i went to radio shack looking for a 10,000uf capacitor and the highest they had was 4300uf. and that thing was huge. can i see some pics of your capacitors installed and the size??

Wire two of them side by side the positive of one cap to the postive of the other and the negatives together too. Then wire that as per the schematic.
The capacitance value of the two add up.


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