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lazzer408 06-24-2007 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Flippy02 (Post 125663)
so what other advantages does COP offer? besides smoother idle, and increased mpg?

Never having to worry about plug wires again. Less emf interfering with other sensors. Props from your friends for pimping your own ride. :bigtu:

GTS Miata 06-24-2007 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Splitime (Post 125633)
I wonder how cleanly MSI would handle these.

I was wondering the same thing...

lazzer408 06-24-2007 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by GTS Miata (Post 125722)
I was wondering the same thing...

If it can fire the oem coils it can fire these as wasted spark. I tried them that way before going sequential just to see if it would work.

Flippy02 06-24-2007 10:46 PM

did it work with your ems?

lazzer408 06-25-2007 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Flippy02 (Post 125801)
did it work with your ems?

Yes. It'll work with the stock ECU or any other ECU that can fire the Miata coils. You will need a "higher-end" engine management system if you want to run them sequential. Otherwise you can fire them 2 at a time. 1&4 and 2&3 together.

Flippy02 06-26-2007 01:06 AM

as far as i can see there's only 3 wires into the coils packs on my 00, is there +something i'm missing, i cant seem to find the v+, maybe i should lay off the vodka before attempting wiring

Flippy02 06-26-2007 01:11 AM

i guess i'm going to have to find my own voltage source

TurboTim 06-26-2007 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Flippy02 (Post 126131)
as far as i can see there's only 3 wires into the coils packs on my 00, is there +something i'm missing, i cant seem to find the v+, maybe i should lay off the vodka before attempting wiring

I thought the newer Miata coils don't have tach outputs. The tach signal comes from the ECU or something like that. But I could be mistaken.

Joe Perez 06-26-2007 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Flippy02 (Post 126131)
as far as i can see there's only 3 wires into the coils packs on my 00, is there +something i'm missing

Yes, you're missing the wiring diagram :D http://www.madracki.com/miata/wiring.html

Black/White is your +12 supply. Brown/Yellow is coil 1, Brown is coil 2. The schematic shows a fourth (Black) wire providing primary ground, however I believe this ground point is local to the coilpack itself- no corresponding wire in the connector. So Tim is right- no RPM wire to worry about.

lazzer408 06-26-2007 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Flippy02 (Post 126131)
as far as i can see there's only 3 wires into the coils packs on my 00, is there +something i'm missing, i cant seem to find the v+, maybe i should lay off the vodka before attempting wiring

According to the schematic for '00...

Coil:1
Black/white = power
Brown/yellow = coil 1 trigger
Black = ground

Coil:2
Black/white = power
Brown = coil 2 trigger
Black = ground

There is no tach output. Tim is correct in saying the ECU provides the tach signal

jayc72 06-26-2007 05:48 PM

Would this work with a Link?

Flippy02 06-26-2007 05:54 PM

i was comparing the wire colors to the ones you posted up lazzer, and looking at teh schematics, i saw the wire colors, i just couldn't find what they did

lazzer408 06-26-2007 06:07 PM

Attached - Toyata Corolla '04 schematics.

I couldn't attach it to the thread. Maybe an admin can do that.

http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download.php?fileid=29548

lazzer408 06-26-2007 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 126375)
Would this work with a Link?


Originally Posted by lazzer408 (Post 125880)
Yes. It'll work with the stock ECU or any other ECU that can fire the Miata coils. You will need a "higher-end" engine management system if you want to run them sequential. Otherwise you can fire them 2 at a time. 1&4 and 2&3 together.

Read the thread.

Flippy02 06-26-2007 06:21 PM

i'm just gonna sit tight until my coils come, and then i'm goig to source some connectors, and then wire it up, and fire it up, hope nothing blows up

TurboTim 06-26-2007 09:24 PM

Would this work with the AEM EMS?



hehe jk

Flippy02 06-26-2007 09:38 PM

how about my corolla?

Joe Perez 06-26-2007 10:11 PM

Ban? :pitlab:

lazzer408 06-27-2007 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 126438)
Would this work with the AEM EMS?



hehe jk

:gtfo:

TurboTim 06-27-2007 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Flippy02 (Post 126448)
how about my corolla?

HAHAHAHA


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