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Ok guys this just hit me! When I needed a connector for a map sensor I bought it at a GM dealer. Since a Pontiac Vibe is a Toyota with a 1ZZFE engine then maybe a GM dealer could look up the connectors for the COP coils??? =) Someone hit up a dealer and ask for maybe a '03+ Vibe coil connector. Then ask for quantity discounts!
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I have a good relationship with the parts counter at the chevy dealer, if you can tell me what chevy will work, I can.
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The vibe was the only GM I believe with that body style. I don't think they brought it to the other "names". However, the chev guy should be able to order the vibe parts if necessary....
Might still be worth the investigation.... Dave, |
Do the connectors on the wires look like this?
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._1957_45453022 (similar to injector harnesses) |
ooo that's nice. might just need to shave off the mounting tabs
do you have dim's on those connectors? |
Originally Posted by Ben
(Post 138186)
ooo that's nice. might just need to shave off the mounting tabs
do you have dim's on those connectors? |
mounting tabs on the coil, it has 2 on top. the connector you pictured has one slot on top, one on bottom. that connector you pictured looks like it is the right design. just no way to know if it's sized and proportioned right.
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Originally Posted by Ben
(Post 137921)
I don't think it would be tough since these cops have built in ignitors. I would attempt, but Joe Perez is much better qualified.
I think Lazzer's solution has merit. A flip-flop could be set on the rising edge of the CMP, and reset on the trailing edge of the second CKP thereafter. The output of this flip-flop would drive two pairs of gates, with an inverting buffer on the switch input to one pair. This would make the mod compatible with MS as well as stock ECUs and piggybacks. However, I won't be the one building it unfortunately. When I epoxied my coils I only connected tach wires to two of them, so my engine will be running wasted-spark unless someone out there wishes to donate two coils to the project. |
Doing some poking around this morning, I think while looking at the GM Parts sites....
Chevrolet Prizm - 2000->2002 might have the same coils in it. This site lists the coils for the 2002-> 2006 vibe as the same part number (GT is different from the base), however it also implies that the prizm uses the same part number. www.gmpartsdirect.com My mom just got a new 2006 vibe. The next time I see it, I'll try to get some shots of the coils and also the connectors...... EDIT: Confirmed from another GM parts site -- these look the same too, plus the same part number: http://parts.replacementgeneralparts...1&make_code=CV Dave, |
Oh, I like where this is going! That definitly looks to be the proper part, for sourcing a connector plug... who's got the GM hookup :p
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Nope, sorry. Connectors alone are not for sale. Whole harness only, for the low cost of $700.
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Originally Posted by Ben
(Post 138191)
mounting tabs on the coil, it has 2 on top. the connector you pictured has one slot on top, one on bottom. that connector you pictured looks like it is the right design. just no way to know if it's sized and proportioned right.
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this: http://order.waytekwire.com/IMAGES/M...og/219_034.pdf or this: http://order.waytekwire.com/IMAGES/M...og/219_035.pdf work?
damn this looks the closest, however, dual row, not signal: http://order.waytekwire.com/IMAGES/M...og/219_037.pdf |
no, i don't see those working.
matt's is the closest, and yeah knocking down the tabs is trivial. what are the odds it's the right size though |
Originally Posted by Ben
(Post 138203)
Nope, sorry. Connectors alone are not for sale. Whole harness only, for the low cost of $700.
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http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/T...^N~1^IDS~48035
orrrr http://www.molex.com/cgi-bin/bv/mole...cehedffgdfmk.0 Maybe. ben, can you tell me the dimensions of the connector at all? terminal width and spacing, if they're centered top to bottom. if there's any keying (I saw none) other than the latch on top... |
Originally Posted by Ben
the cop connector outside measurement is 1" wide x 7/16" high. 4 male rectangular pins inside. I don't have a micrometer to get down in there but they appear 1/16" wide and .7mm high. They are evenly spaced left and right, but are set up closer to the top of the coil than to the bottom.
However, I have access to both tools, 30 minutes away from me. f you find somehthing that seems like it will work I will go take good measurements. The only key I recall is the 2 small raised ridges on top, one on either side of center. They will immediately disappear with a razor or dremel. <edit> I was wrong about the keys. there are 3 on top, all convexities. top center key is wedge shaped. pointy end of triangle forward, less than 1mm tall towards rear. 5mm wide. designed for a release tab to grab. on either side of the wedge is a bump, each is 3mm from their respective end of the wedge, and 1mm wide, 2mm deep (front to back), 1mm tall http://www.ilostmymind.com/upload/step2.jpg |
http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/T...&N=1&IDS=48035
Go here... Click Product Drawings: 1 X 4 PLG ASY KEY A-C3 (PDF, English) The actual part of that plug that inserts into the coil's connector will fit. I'm not sure about the clip though. I have specs for the Toyota connector I'll post in a minute. |
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http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...F1072Large.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...F1071Large.jpg http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...F1070Large.jpg http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...F1069Large.jpg Looking at the coil the ID is 22mm x 8.5mm and pin spacing is 5mm The connector Braineack and I are talking about has a plug OD of 20.4mm x 7.1mm and has 5mm pin spacing. In other words it fits electrically but I can't tell if the "retainment housing" will clip to the coil. Order a test sample. :bigtu: |
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