the coils dont click down, they've just got a spring. mine sit a few mm above the valve cover too but I verified that even still, they sit as low as the OEM boots.

bah.. I was the lone bidder on a set on fleabay. I thought I was all set. 6 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes, and 57 seconds, and i was outbid by someone with one of those snipper accounts (7 bids in last 40 seconds..). i was so ready to come here and brag that I got a set of 6 for $40...

That stinks.

Guess I'm just gonna have to dig in on my 99. Am I going to have any issues due to the difference in dwell between the Toyota coils and the 99 ECU settings?

Hard to say. I thought you were going MS, considering you have that thread on m.net?

I probably will eventually, but have not purchased it yet. I'm thinking in the spring. All depends on how other things go (finances).

O.K. just a little update. There is no spark. I get +12v and ground - no problem. I plugged some old plug-wires into the new coils and the engine. Nothing!

So I suppose this is it. I haven't got a clue why this doesn't work on the '99 cars. I'm done with this cop things and keep my magnecore 8mm wires.

I sell my unfinished kit over here... if there isn't a quick and uncomplicated solution.

Greets

Sorry to hear that you did not have success.

Just FYI, using a Flyin Miata Link ECU, requires the 1K-ohm pull up resistor like the Megasquirt.

That's only on the 1.6, correct?

I'm not sure about the 1.8L Link ECU's, since I have the 1.6L MK2 Link ECU. But in this case, I had to use a pull-up resistor for the 1.6L MK2 Link ECU in order to get the Tach working.

Well, I installed the cops today. Have any of you experienced hesitation and rough idle when you installed them? I checked all the connections and they seem fine. Also, when I put it under load it seems to bog down. Any ideas?

i've had no problem with my 00 car, it ran perfectly on the first try

I did the COP to try to cure what appeared to be a bad spark plug cable. The engine ran on 3 cylinders 90% of the time.

upon firing up the car, with the COP setup, it still ran on 3 cylinders.

Even after cleaning and regapping the plugs, it still didn't help.

In desparation, I bought 4 new spark plugs seriously doubting that it would work since spark plugs don't have any moving parts and regapping them should have fixed any problems, so I thought.

Swapped out all 4 plugs, and the car fired up and ran perfect.

Go figure:confused:.

That's good to know, as there are people on m.net having problems with their 99s. I'll be doing mine in a few weeks.

Jason

No, there's ONE person having problems. And he refuses to believe that it's his wiring.

:rofl:

did he ever check his grounds? I stopped reading the thread after the 6 pages of telling him it was his grounds

I wish I had a '99, cause I'd get it to work just to prove him dumb.

THAT guy is running fine after adding some grounds and then adding a MSPNP.
I'm talking about our built NA 99 friend.

Well, dear Ben and Braineck it's not only one, its two... me included. (O.K. mine is a 1,6 99) And yes I did check the wiring once, twice, triple... it's not the wiring. And another yes - I got good solid ground.

And now...? More of the check the wiring ?

Flippy's car runs fine.
scope your ignition output. you have a car that's not available here.

Ben or Braineack,
Any ideas on my problem? Could it be a ground or my wiring? When I switch back to the plug wires it runs just fine and the idle is nice and smooth.

I'm going to go ahead and try to wire mine up in the next few weeks. I'll let you all know the results.

it should work with the stock ecu if you follow the diagram.

but:
the brown wire splits for the 2 & 3 trigger; brown/yellow splits for the 1 & 4 trigger
black is a shared ground
blue is the 12v source
yellow/blue is the tach output, you need to attach the black/white to this lead for a 1v source to power the signal.

that's it.

did you get that from a good wiring diagram? I thought I remembered on Dan's car brown/yellow was the 2-3 coil trigger and brown was 1-2. Might be mistaken.

it's that way all the way to 2005...dunno why after the first 3 years they'd swap it. I used the same.


when i was building the MSs I was reversing the output inside the CPU itself, so on the harness it will look different.

umm

;)

Again, that was from MEMORY. I wasn't looking at his car when I wrote that, as I'm not looking at it now. I just thought I remembered the yellow stripe coil was the dead one.

Not all of us can be cool like you with 4 triggers. :)

awesome

Well, I checked grounds and wire harness three times last night and it was perfect. Stupid me finally decided to check the coils and the number 3 coil wasn't firing. So just to check the harness and coil I swapped it with the number 1 and it still wasn't firing. I guess I got a bad coil and will have to go searching again. Thanks for all your help guys.

ummm = look closer at what you said.

oh, :rofl:
maybe that explains why is car doesn't run

good eyes.

Just scored a set off of a 2000 Celica GT... :)

I was really hoping nobody would see those and I could grab them for $10. But oh well.

For auctions on ebay like that, I see no problem with a post here stating your intention to bid and your max price. That way we don't bid against each other.

Thanks for the tip!

FWIW: the Emanage pins are the same as the stock ECU pins (That's how I made my EMB semi PNP)

Jeff, you're so out of the loop. I've been selling these pins to members fors weeks now.

Mine. Up to $70
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-Use...spagenameZWDVW

I know, but it's tough to stay on top of it all... The technological break throughs that keep occuring on this forum are too fast for old guys like me...

This has to be one of the longest threads on this forum?

yeah, I agree. There is a wealth of info in this thread. It's easy to skip over something...

that's why i put the nitty gritty in the archives.

I would like to move over to COP. Has anyone found an issue with the Toyota COP's and the dwell settings in the 1.6L link ecu?

COPs are sitting in the garage [happy dance]. Depending on how far I get with the maifold/turbo this weekend, I'll try to wire them up, or at least 'survey' the work ahead.

I haven't had any issues yet, but I really haven't driven the car much since I did the conversion. It runs, and I've idled and driven the car for about 15 minutes.

NeoGenesis, again, for the umpteeth time, ran Cops on his stock ECU for about 2-3 months.

Its amazing how many times I've typed that out for people.

Not only do I claim that, Scott and Brad were both witness to it when we were working on Brads diff.

I think more people would look at the shit in the archives if its name was changed to something like "Technical Documents" or some such shit. I think when noobs see archives they think, oh thats just where they stick all the old threads and shit.

At least this place is not as bad as m.net members posting, reposting, rerererererereposting the same darn questions instead of searching for a minute.

For those who are unable to change the dwell what would be the worst thing to happen over time? Would you just end up burring the stock igniter or one of the coils out? Or would the extended dwell saturate the coil and cause less of a spark?

you could possibly burn out a coil. If Brian's didn't in 2 months, i doubt they would over any longer time. I'm pretty sure I touched them after he drove about an hour to my house, they weren't hot...

Long time no see. =) Hows the whole COP thing been working out?

working great, hows the ebov? :gay:

working great. wot said Tial is working on one now?

sounds good...try to keep the baby mama drama out of here, and take everything with stride.

I'm back as well...with 2 new cars. lol.
My cop harness is for sale though... I think I'll have to post it up in the for sale subforum.

Well I started my install. I wanted it to be reversible in case there were problems (didn't want to cut off the stock connectors), so I got a 4 wire plug harness for a trailer. I installed the side in to the Miata harness last night (spliced/soldered), and will build the harness for the coils tonight. The only concern that I have is that the trailer harness is 14 gauge wire. Will the larger wire cause me any problems?

Thanks,

Jason

No, the larger gauge wire won't cause any issues.
Post pics.

Cool, thanks.

Will do once installed.

Well, I got my harness installed yesterday on my 99 with the stock ECU and Toyota coilpacks, and it fired right up, no issues at all. Purred like a kitten. I let it run for a half hour (some moron not to be named left the passenger door cracked open for a few days and killed the battery), and revved it up and down, no issues there either. Seems to be a success story here. I'd like to take it for a drive, but there is a bit of snow on the ground, and I still have to mount the coilpacks (they are just loosely sitting on the plugs now). So far, so good.

FYI: links to pics for COP how-to in the archive appear to be pointing to the old forum URLs. Great info / resource, but a little hard to follow now.

Cheers!

Jeff

Go tell Popstoy he's an idiot and rub it in his face till he never posts again.