Compressor surge surprise attack!
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Compressor surge surprise attack!
I've been using this knockoff greddy bov (identical to the Greddy type s) for about 6 months and it has been working flawlessly.
A few days ago, during normal light accelleration I heard the fluttering compressor surge sound when I shifted. Complexed, I accellerated harder actually going into boost and let off an the bov did its thing normally. I accellerated lightly, not going into boost - maybe 80 kpa or so, let off the gas and again, compressor surge.
Basically it seems, at low pressures (very light accel) when I lift off the throttle the bov doesn't open now and so I get that fluttering surge, but with any boost, even 110 kpa, the bov vents normally...
So.. has anyone had a similar experience like this? Is the bov tightening up over time, as in its now taking more pressure to open it up? If so, should I try to take it apart and somehow adjust the sensitivity?
A few days ago, during normal light accelleration I heard the fluttering compressor surge sound when I shifted. Complexed, I accellerated harder actually going into boost and let off an the bov did its thing normally. I accellerated lightly, not going into boost - maybe 80 kpa or so, let off the gas and again, compressor surge.
Basically it seems, at low pressures (very light accel) when I lift off the throttle the bov doesn't open now and so I get that fluttering surge, but with any boost, even 110 kpa, the bov vents normally...
So.. has anyone had a similar experience like this? Is the bov tightening up over time, as in its now taking more pressure to open it up? If so, should I try to take it apart and somehow adjust the sensitivity?
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I'm running the Greddy Type RS BOV, there's a common failure in the diaphram. Open it up and check for tears.
There's an issue w/ the knock-off Greddys, some of them wouldn't open up all the way. Check to see if you get full travel w/ the adjustment screw backed off completely, if not you'll have to do some grinding.
There's an issue w/ the knock-off Greddys, some of them wouldn't open up all the way. Check to see if you get full travel w/ the adjustment screw backed off completely, if not you'll have to do some grinding.
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My friend has the EXACT some BOV on his e30.
The problem is that the spring inside will twist and shift. It's really a simple fix. Just open the whole thing up and clean out any grime and reset the springs in a manner so they are'nt binding at any point.
Shouldn't take any more than 10 minutes.
The problem is that the spring inside will twist and shift. It's really a simple fix. Just open the whole thing up and clean out any grime and reset the springs in a manner so they are'nt binding at any point.
Shouldn't take any more than 10 minutes.
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My friend has the EXACT some BOV on his e30.
The problem is that the spring inside will twist and shift. It's really a simple fix. Just open the whole thing up and clean out any grime and reset the springs in a manner so they are'nt binding at any point.
Shouldn't take any more than 10 minutes.
The problem is that the spring inside will twist and shift. It's really a simple fix. Just open the whole thing up and clean out any grime and reset the springs in a manner so they are'nt binding at any point.
Shouldn't take any more than 10 minutes.
Also, the Turbo Dodge nerds generally don't run a BOV of any sort. Compressor surge sounds wicked sweet. My room mate put ~130k on a mildly modded 2.2 turbo LeBaron without a BOV with no issues. When he pulled the turbo apart after the motor finally let go, it had about 1/8" thrust clearance, but it still made good boost, lol.
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Thanks for suggestions guys. So far, this bov has worked great, and as a true Greddy type S is $150 used to $250 new I think I will look into what is ailing this one before ditching it and getting another..
Honestly, as this only happens at less than 0 psi (vacuum), I really doubt it is hurting the turbo in the way that compressor surge with no bov does, but I want to keep everything operating 100% properly, not let things get all janky on me, so I want to figure this out. I want to bump to 14 psi in the near future..
I'll try messing with the adjustment screw on the top.. I don't know how to check if it is opening fully or not... I mean wouldn't I have to turn the motor on and rev the **** out of it with my eye down in the bov outlet to see if the bov is opening all the way?
If adjusting the screw doesn't help I'll pull it apart and check the spring and diaphram - I searched this issue on google and found that a few guys out there using this bov have had diaphrams tear and one guy even made a replacement out of a bicycle tire tube instead of buying a greddy replacement diaphram..
-Ryan
Honestly, as this only happens at less than 0 psi (vacuum), I really doubt it is hurting the turbo in the way that compressor surge with no bov does, but I want to keep everything operating 100% properly, not let things get all janky on me, so I want to figure this out. I want to bump to 14 psi in the near future..
I'll try messing with the adjustment screw on the top.. I don't know how to check if it is opening fully or not... I mean wouldn't I have to turn the motor on and rev the **** out of it with my eye down in the bov outlet to see if the bov is opening all the way?
If adjusting the screw doesn't help I'll pull it apart and check the spring and diaphram - I searched this issue on google and found that a few guys out there using this bov have had diaphrams tear and one guy even made a replacement out of a bicycle tire tube instead of buying a greddy replacement diaphram..
-Ryan
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It's probably not necessary if the problem developed over time, and the above advice is likely sufficient, but to answer this question you can preform the one spring mod.
Inside the Greddy-S (real and knockoff) are two springs of different thicknesses/rates. You can pull out the smaller spring and reassemble. The one larger spring will hold 15psi without leaking.
EVO Motorsports - Evo VIII Performance Upgrades and Accessories - Type-S Single Spring Mod
edit: Disassembled:
Inside the Greddy-S (real and knockoff) are two springs of different thicknesses/rates. You can pull out the smaller spring and reassemble. The one larger spring will hold 15psi without leaking.
EVO Motorsports - Evo VIII Performance Upgrades and Accessories - Type-S Single Spring Mod
edit: Disassembled:
Last edited by UofACATS; 06-14-2009 at 02:32 PM.
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Does anyone know if the HKS SSQV requires cleaning as well?
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