ABSURDflow Turbo KLDE Mazda V6 Thread
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The OEM intake (my block came with a KLZE intake) points into the firewall. Will I really need all of those different chambers on a lightweight miata? And will they ultimately restrict the flow at high RPMs? Plus the sidefeed injectors are lame. I'm seeing if I can fit one of those new cute LS7 injectors in there under the runners; reusing the runner portion of the intake and just building a plenum that points in the right direction. Otherwise I'll have to build the intake from scratch (not a big deal really).
I don't have money for two turbos at this time unfortunately. While that would make some sense, it's just a lot cheaper to use one basic twin scroll T4 airwerks borgwarner with a couple MVS' than two GT2554's, or whatever.
I don't have money for two turbos at this time unfortunately. While that would make some sense, it's just a lot cheaper to use one basic twin scroll T4 airwerks borgwarner with a couple MVS' than two GT2554's, or whatever.
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Yeah that's my current believe too.
I'm leaning heavily towards the BW S200sx. Fullrace's site makes it seem like the cat's ***.
http://www.full-race.com/store/turbo...670-turbo.html
I'm leaning heavily towards the BW S200sx. Fullrace's site makes it seem like the cat's ***.
http://www.full-race.com/store/turbo...670-turbo.html
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Do something custom for the intake manifold. I swapped a KLZE into my Ford Probe (originally KLDE) and with all the different actuators and vacuum lines on that bitch, I could never get the VRIS to work properly. Ended up selling it. Granted, I knew about 0.05% of what I do now about working on cars, but I remember that intake manifold being my nemesis...
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i was the one who started that thread over on m.net. Though i do not plan to turbo mine off the bat i do plan to down the road.But i will be watching this thread.
also i will be purchasing an adapter from claire. I like that there are a few people with this in the works. I plan to pull my vvt engine out in the next month or so.
My plan is to get the kl4g adapted to the stock 6 speed and get it to pass obd2 scan for emissions. Then i will hopefully have a N/a v6 with more headroom then the stock i4.
also for the people wanting to know. it does have a forged crank. Well the kl4g doesnt.
But if you wanted to build the engine there are some forged 302 rods that will fit with minor modifications. Apparently you can have a fully built lower end rods and pistons for under 1000. so if i get off with this swap for under a decent turbo kit. then i will be happy.
but anyways i think this twin turbo business is going to be intense. these engines make a great exhaust note.
also i will be purchasing an adapter from claire. I like that there are a few people with this in the works. I plan to pull my vvt engine out in the next month or so.
My plan is to get the kl4g adapted to the stock 6 speed and get it to pass obd2 scan for emissions. Then i will hopefully have a N/a v6 with more headroom then the stock i4.
also for the people wanting to know. it does have a forged crank. Well the kl4g doesnt.
But if you wanted to build the engine there are some forged 302 rods that will fit with minor modifications. Apparently you can have a fully built lower end rods and pistons for under 1000. so if i get off with this swap for under a decent turbo kit. then i will be happy.
but anyways i think this twin turbo business is going to be intense. these engines make a great exhaust note.
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i was the one who started that thread over on m.net. Though i do not plan to turbo mine off the bat i do plan to down the road.But i will be watching this thread.
also i will be purchasing an adapter from claire. I like that there are a few people with this in the works. I plan to pull my vvt engine out in the next month or so.
My plan is to get the kl4g adapted to the stock 6 speed and get it to pass obd2 scan for emissions. Then i will hopefully have a N/a v6 with more headroom then the stock i4.
also for the people wanting to know. it does have a forged crank. Well the kl4g doesnt.
But if you wanted to build the engine there are some forged 302 rods that will fit with minor modifications. Apparently you can have a fully built lower end rods and pistons for under 1000. so if i get off with this swap for under a decent turbo kit. then i will be happy.
but anyways i think this twin turbo business is going to be intense. these engines make a great exhaust note.
also i will be purchasing an adapter from claire. I like that there are a few people with this in the works. I plan to pull my vvt engine out in the next month or so.
My plan is to get the kl4g adapted to the stock 6 speed and get it to pass obd2 scan for emissions. Then i will hopefully have a N/a v6 with more headroom then the stock i4.
also for the people wanting to know. it does have a forged crank. Well the kl4g doesnt.
But if you wanted to build the engine there are some forged 302 rods that will fit with minor modifications. Apparently you can have a fully built lower end rods and pistons for under 1000. so if i get off with this swap for under a decent turbo kit. then i will be happy.
but anyways i think this twin turbo business is going to be intense. these engines make a great exhaust note.
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in terms of power, I know a few mx6 guys who were getting 330 hp easy on relatively low boost (7 psi with a t3/t4 ?). On an mx6, it's not the engine that had problems, but rather the weak G series transmission would break like glass. The ones who have turboed their mx6's have gone through 8 or 9 trannies and can swap a tranny in about an hour or so (might be exaggerating a bit, but still). klze heads flow the best, but springs and lifters don't like anything above 7000 rpms. If I ever take my ZE mx6 up in the higher rpm range, I try not to pass 6500
oh yeah, and on the crazy modded KL's out there, I believe one twin turboed monster "KL" had pretty much everything beefed up on the engine, except for a balanced stock crank. So pretty much the only thing making that engine a KL was the crank lol
oh yeah, and on the crazy modded KL's out there, I believe one twin turboed monster "KL" had pretty much everything beefed up on the engine, except for a balanced stock crank. So pretty much the only thing making that engine a KL was the crank lol
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Anyone know the HP limit of the stock cast pistons?
At the moment I'm leaning towards 302 ford forged rods and a Ross piston for the .027" shorter rod length and larger, floating pin.
At the moment I'm leaning towards 302 ford forged rods and a Ross piston for the .027" shorter rod length and larger, floating pin.
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And .027" is a .5% difference. Hardly worth worrying about if money is a deciding factor.
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Not so much...
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Shorter rod means more rod angularity, and higher buckling force on the rod, and side force on the cylinder walls/ piston skirts. A motor will still rev/ make power with shorter rods, but it will be itself to death more quickly.
And .027" is a .5% difference. Hardly worth worrying about if money is a deciding factor.
And .027" is a .5% difference. Hardly worth worrying about if money is a deciding factor.
http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...part-deux.aspx
http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...ve-engine.aspx
But like vehicular said, 0.5% difference doesn't really matter, especially if it means you can get high quality forged rods at a lower price.