Why can't we have nice freeways in CA?
#21
There is no "fast lane". They are all fast lanes. Some of them are also "passing lanes". Changing the collective American thought patterns by using better terminology would at least be a step forward. Everyone venturing onto a highway anticipates they will be going fast and would therefore be entitled to the fast lane. Not everyone always sees themselves as passing.
#26
Now that this thread is about the quality of US infrastructure, I thought I'd keep it going:
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#28
A: Big Rigs and significantly higher right-lane vehiclular traffic make it bad
B: Significantly longer highway life expectancy than the northern states means the wear surface (asphault) does not get regular lifecycle replacements nearly as often
C: Since california gives all of its revenue away to the lazy, it has none remaining to do actual government things such as scheduled freeway maintenance.
Move to an actual "northern" state for a few years. You'll stop complaining about bumpy freeways when the alternative is chronic construction zones.
B: Significantly longer highway life expectancy than the northern states means the wear surface (asphault) does not get regular lifecycle replacements nearly as often
C: Since california gives all of its revenue away to the lazy, it has none remaining to do actual government things such as scheduled freeway maintenance.
Move to an actual "northern" state for a few years. You'll stop complaining about bumpy freeways when the alternative is chronic construction zones.
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#29
A: Big Rigs and significantly higher right-lane vehiclular traffic make it bad
B: Significantly longer highway life expectancy than the northern states means the wear surface (asphault) does not get regular lifecycle replacements nearly as often
C: Since california gives all of its revenue away to the lazy, it has none remaining to do actual government things such as scheduled freeway maintenance.
Move to an actual "northern" state for a few years. You'll stop complaining about bumpy freeways when the alternative is chronic construction zones.
B: Significantly longer highway life expectancy than the northern states means the wear surface (asphault) does not get regular lifecycle replacements nearly as often
C: Since california gives all of its revenue away to the lazy, it has none remaining to do actual government things such as scheduled freeway maintenance.
Move to an actual "northern" state for a few years. You'll stop complaining about bumpy freeways when the alternative is chronic construction zones.
This.
Having spent time in Cali, I'm convinced those complaining about the roads there have never driven outside the southwest. Every road in NH/MA is either ****, under construction, or hasn't seen a winter ... like the woman in MA.
And too think I plan on running 12k monoflex on the street.
-Zach
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I lived in Cincinnati for 5 years. I left in 2005, and sometimes I still look back and say to myself "I wonder if the 275 is STILL under construction after all these years..."
And then I remember that, since 275 is a loop, it will NEVER be finished. When they finally wrap around to where they originally started the resurfacing project, they just keep right on going and rip it all up again.
That's one thing that really impressed me about driving in Germany for a while.
In the midwest/northeast US, when they want to work on a section of highway, they'll close down a whole 20 mile stretch, rip it all completely to ****, leave it sitting unfinished throughout the entire winter, and MAYBE finish it the following year.
In Germany (at least, in lower Saxony), they seemed to take a different approach. They'd tale a half km section, shut it down, blitzkrieg the hell out of it, then re-open it and move on to the next half-km section. So there's never more than a small interruption, and the public gets to see continual signs of progress.
#31
A: Big Rigs and significantly higher right-lane vehiclular traffic make it bad
B: Significantly longer highway life expectancy than the northern states means the wear surface (asphault) does not get regular lifecycle replacements nearly as often
C: Since california gives all of its revenue away to the lazy, it has none remaining to do actual government things such as scheduled freeway maintenance.
Move to an actual "northern" state for a few years. You'll stop complaining about bumpy freeways when the alternative is chronic construction zones.
B: Significantly longer highway life expectancy than the northern states means the wear surface (asphault) does not get regular lifecycle replacements nearly as often
C: Since california gives all of its revenue away to the lazy, it has none remaining to do actual government things such as scheduled freeway maintenance.
Move to an actual "northern" state for a few years. You'll stop complaining about bumpy freeways when the alternative is chronic construction zones.
Yup.
I lived in Cincinnati for 5 years. I left in 2005, and sometimes I still look back and say to myself "I wonder if the 275 is STILL under construction after all these years..."
And then I remember that, since 275 is a loop, it will NEVER be finished. When they finally wrap around to where they originally started the resurfacing project, they just keep right on going and rip it all up again.
That's one thing that really impressed me about driving in Germany for a while.
In the midwest/northeast US, when they want to work on a section of highway, they'll close down a whole 20 mile stretch, rip it all completely to ****, leave it sitting unfinished throughout the entire winter, and MAYBE finish it the following year.
In Germany (at least, in lower Saxony), they seemed to take a different approach. They'd tale a half km section, shut it down, blitzkrieg the hell out of it, then re-open it and move on to the next half-km section. So there's never more than a small interruption, and the public gets to see continual signs of progress.
I lived in Cincinnati for 5 years. I left in 2005, and sometimes I still look back and say to myself "I wonder if the 275 is STILL under construction after all these years..."
And then I remember that, since 275 is a loop, it will NEVER be finished. When they finally wrap around to where they originally started the resurfacing project, they just keep right on going and rip it all up again.
That's one thing that really impressed me about driving in Germany for a while.
In the midwest/northeast US, when they want to work on a section of highway, they'll close down a whole 20 mile stretch, rip it all completely to ****, leave it sitting unfinished throughout the entire winter, and MAYBE finish it the following year.
In Germany (at least, in lower Saxony), they seemed to take a different approach. They'd tale a half km section, shut it down, blitzkrieg the hell out of it, then re-open it and move on to the next half-km section. So there's never more than a small interruption, and the public gets to see continual signs of progress.
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