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President Obama
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11
21.57%
GOP candidate
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60.78%
Third party candidate
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9
17.65%
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Who whould you vote for in the 2012 presidential election?
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We're assuming that the GOP candidate will either be Romney, Gingrich or Paul.
Votes are private and you can only vote for one.
Edit: If you answered "Third party", which third party candidate would you vote for? I haven't seen much if any attention payed to 3rd parties yet.
Votes are private and you can only vote for one.
Edit: If you answered "Third party", which third party candidate would you vote for? I haven't seen much if any attention payed to 3rd parties yet.
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That does not a capitalist make.
Corzine used his power/influence in the state/fed to do whatever he wanted -- for example, he manipulated the Commodities Future Trading Commission into giving him the greenlight to invest his customer's cash into forgien debt. He convinced his firm this would be a good idea.
In capitalism, he wouldn't need permission to do it, but his failure to produce for his clients when he lost their money wouldn't be a good business model and I wouldn't expect that business to remain in business or get bailouts to continue to operate in this manner. But at the same time, I'm sure he had some inside information that told him that the US would be bailing out Italy and he'd make his money back tenfold. This again is NOT capitalism.
Corzine sacrficed his customers in order to try to make a buck. That's pretty much the definition of our mixed ecomony: an amoral, institutionalized civil war of special interests and lobbies, all fighting to seize a momentary control of the legislative machinery, to extort some special privilege at one another’s expense by an act of government—i.e., by force.
the only end to this would be either the private sector regains its freedom and starts rebuilding or we give up and all take the road back to serfdom.
Corzine used his power/influence in the state/fed to do whatever he wanted -- for example, he manipulated the Commodities Future Trading Commission into giving him the greenlight to invest his customer's cash into forgien debt. He convinced his firm this would be a good idea.
In capitalism, he wouldn't need permission to do it, but his failure to produce for his clients when he lost their money wouldn't be a good business model and I wouldn't expect that business to remain in business or get bailouts to continue to operate in this manner. But at the same time, I'm sure he had some inside information that told him that the US would be bailing out Italy and he'd make his money back tenfold. This again is NOT capitalism.
Corzine sacrficed his customers in order to try to make a buck. That's pretty much the definition of our mixed ecomony: an amoral, institutionalized civil war of special interests and lobbies, all fighting to seize a momentary control of the legislative machinery, to extort some special privilege at one another’s expense by an act of government—i.e., by force.
the only end to this would be either the private sector regains its freedom and starts rebuilding or we give up and all take the road back to serfdom.
Last edited by Braineack; 12-14-2011 at 02:10 PM.