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Old 01-03-2019 | 10:53 AM
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That $45k is for someone managing a large station with 10+ employees and actual responsibilities and still requires 60hr work weeks. Smaller stations are closer to $32k.

Using the manager was a bad example, I usually have more issues with the 'shift leader' still making $12/hr who just got their first taste of authority.
A few weeks ago one was being a stuck up ***** and generally unhelpful while on an after hours call. Its amazing how nice people can be after getting a call from someone who's name they've only read in an email.

That service call ended up costing them more than they would make in 2 months, assuming they were full time.
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Then go be a gas station manager?

At Quik Trip, move up to 1A and you'd probably be making more like $55-60k, store managers make $75-80k+ depending on how busy the store is.

But that is a much tougher gig than a **** hole 7/11 somewhere.
My younger brother just interviewed for a store manager position with WaWa since he's looking to transition out of restaurant management.. He mentioned to me they pay around 80-90k plus bonuses to manage down here in South FL. Had no idea you can make that kind of scratch managing one of those locations.
Old 01-03-2019 | 03:33 PM
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It's a high stress job that works a ton of hours where he is much, more likely to have someone come in and stick a gun in his face.

My only guess is that he is working in small/local time places where he doesn't make good money, because this is solid horizontal move, if slightly backwards.

My best friend since high school is the GM for a Texas Roadhouse, he makes good money, good benefits, doesn't really have to worry about being robbed, etc. He also has a 4 year degree in HRAD and a management degree from LeCordon Bleu
Old 01-03-2019 | 09:25 PM
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A Waffle House single store manager makes $50k at company owned stores in Georgia. Many are in places much warmer where you are.

There are tech jobs that pay significantly more than that in this area if you look.
Old 01-04-2019 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
It's a high stress job that works a ton of hours where he is much, more likely to have someone come in and stick a gun in his face.

My only guess is that he is working in small/local time places where he doesn't make good money, because this is solid horizontal move, if slightly backwards.

My best friend since high school is the GM for a Texas Roadhouse, he makes good money, good benefits, doesn't really have to worry about being robbed, etc. He also has a 4 year degree in HRAD and a management degree from LeCordon Bleu
He's an AGM for cheesecake factory. Makes about 70k a year plus bonus. It's probably a lateral move salary-wise, but evidently at the GM level, WaWa is a straight 40 hour a week 9 to 5 job, not the 60+ he works now. Don't blame him one bit for wanting to make the same money and work less hours.
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Life Goals:
Primary Objective, Make more money
Secondary Objective, Work less
Bonus objective, Enjoy the ride along the way
Old 01-04-2019 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by whitrzac
Life Goals:
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Secondary Objective, Work less
Bonus objective, Enjoy the ride along the way
These are wise words. Got #1 sorted, but #2 is tough when you're in sales .
Old 01-04-2019 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by whitrzac
Life Goals:
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Have you considered a career in Chicago politics?
Old 01-04-2019 | 12:26 PM
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He's an AGM for cheesecake factory. Makes about 70k a year plus bonus. It's probably a lateral move salary-wise, but evidently at the GM level, WaWa is a straight 40 hour a week 9 to 5 job, not the 60+ he works now. Don't blame him one bit for wanting to make the same money and work less hours.
I've never heard of any type of service industry where the GM works 9-5. I suggest he do some independent research or have something showing him in the writing that's what a GM works. A quick review on Glassdoor and Indeed shows being a GM there is "Great if you're willing to sacrifice your family life."

Seriously, nearly every review on Indeed.com for GM's say "Long hours, unpredictable schedule, work/life balance" and these were even overall positive reviews. Not 1/5 angry rants.

And again, I'd say you're at least an order of magnitude more likely to have someone try to rob you. I had a knife pulled on me when I worked at QT.

Not saying he shouldn't do it, but it sounds like he is being sold something that isn't real. Happened to me when I worked for a defense company, and I had to stick it out for three years until I could find something better. It sucks.
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
I've never heard of any type of service industry where the GM works 9-5. I suggest he do some independent research or have something showing him in the writing that's what a GM works. A quick review on Glassdoor and Indeed shows being a GM there is "Great if you're willing to sacrifice your family life."
^ Very much this.

A lot of people think that being the boss is easy. But the truth is I cannot think of any high-level management position in which you actually work 40 hours a week. You only get paid for 40 hours a week, but your actual schedule is determined by a whole host of factors. You can expect to be on-call 24/7, ready to respond to any situation which comes up at any time. And even if you physically leave the office at 5pm, you will spend most nights continuing to work once home. Same goes for the weekends. I typically try not to come into work on the weekends, but I'm pretty sure that the last time I didn't spend at least a third of the whole weekend remotely logged into work was during the time I was unemployed and spent two weeks travelling after leaving Wheatstone and before coming back to WGN.

Yes, it pays well. Often embarrassingly so. But companies don't give out that kind of salary for easy jobs that anyone can (or would want to) do.
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Just when I thought it could not get any weirder, I am proven wrong yet again. I'm just going to leave this here without comment, aside to say that while I think "Louder with Crowder" is mostly just an echo-chamber for the red-pill-bro crowd to figure out how to annoy liberals, the facts appear to be correct here.



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Originally Posted by z31maniac
I've never heard of any type of service industry where the GM works 9-5. I suggest he do some independent research or have something showing him in the writing that's what a GM works. A quick review on Glassdoor and Indeed shows being a GM there is "Great if you're willing to sacrifice your family life."

Seriously, nearly every review on Indeed.com for GM's say "Long hours, unpredictable schedule, work/life balance" and these were even overall positive reviews. Not 1/5 angry rants.

And again, I'd say you're at least an order of magnitude more likely to have someone try to rob you. I had a knife pulled on me when I worked at QT.

Not saying he shouldn't do it, but it sounds like he is being sold something that isn't real. Happened to me when I worked for a defense company, and I had to stick it out for three years until I could find something better. It sucks.
Yeah, a valid point here. He tends to do his due diligence with these sorts of things, having even reached out to another GM at WaWa and was told "nope, it's pretty legit". Hoping for his sake it is, as i know he's pretty burnt out from the crazy hours at his current gig. We'll see how it goes I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
^ Very much this.

A lot of people think that being the boss is easy. But the truth is I cannot think of any high-level management position in which you actually work 40 hours a week. You only get paid for 40 hours a week, but your actual schedule is determined by a whole host of factors. You can expect to be on-call 24/7, ready to respond to any situation which comes up at any time. And even if you physically leave the office at 5pm, you will spend most nights continuing to work once home. Same goes for the weekends. I typically try not to come into work on the weekends, but I'm pretty sure that the last time I didn't spend at least a third of the whole weekend remotely logged into work was during the time I was unemployed and spent two weeks travelling after leaving Wheatstone and before coming back to WGN.

Yes, it pays well. Often embarrassingly so. But companies don't give out that kind of salary for easy jobs that anyone can (or would want to) do.
True words here. This is my dilemma. I'm part sales, part management, along with wearing 7 other hats at the firm I work for. I'm fortunate to get paid pretty well, but I don't ever really get to disconnect from it.

I.E - Took off during the holiday break. Markets have been nuts during that time. Came in to something like 400 unanswered emails and a full voicemail box. Been back since Wednesday and still digging out of this :(.

At least they fixed the coffee machine here lol.
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For Ben.

These cities will have the most jobs in 2019

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Although most employers expected to boost the size of their workforce by the end of the March, some areas were more promising than others, in terms of job availability.
Florida led the pack, nabbing the top four spots. Deltona, Cape Coral, Tampa and Jacksonville (which tied with Raleigh, North Carolina), rounded out with respective net employment outlooks of 37 percent, 32 percent, 31 percent and 29 percent, according to the study. North Port, meanwhile, took the No. 8 spot, with a net employment outlook of 25 percent.
If the Sunshine State isn't for you, there are other options: Boise City, Idaho came in at No. 5, at 28 percent, followed by Chattanooga, Honolulu at No. 6, with 27 percent. San Jose, Texas, meanwhile, garnered the No. 7 spot with 26 percent.
Full article:https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...bs-in-2019.amp
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"North Port, meanwhile, took the No. 8 spot, with a net employment outlook of 25 percent."
So that's, what, nine new jobs?
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So that's, what, nine new jobs?
Twelve, I think. Not sure because that's hour and a half south of me in the middle of nowhere.

I haven't heard the 2018 numbers yet but in 2017 the greater Tampa Bay area up here where I am had 58,000 new people move into the area. Lots of businesses keep relocating IT, accounting, and other departments here. Low taxes, low cost of living, and better weather are pretty good reasons.
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Twelve, I think. Not sure because that's hour and a half south of me in the middle of nowhere.

I haven't heard the 2018 numbers yet but in 2017 the greater Tampa Bay area up here where I am had 58,000 new people move into the area. Lots of businesses keep relocating IT, accounting, and other departments here. Low taxes, low cost of living, and better weather are pretty good reasons.
I was up in Tampa a few weeks back for a weekend. Stayed about a mile away from Armature works and did all the touristy things (Ybor, the aquarium, Lowry Zoo, etc.) Hands down my new favorite city to visit in FL and wouldn't rule it out as somewhere I'd like to live. Evidently, it's becoming a bit of a financial hub for my type of work.
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I was up in Tampa a few weeks back for a weekend. Stayed about a mile away from Armature works and did all the touristy things (Ybor, the aquarium, Lowry Zoo, etc.) Hands down my new favorite city to visit in FL and wouldn't rule it out as somewhere I'd like to live. Evidently, it's becoming a bit of a financial hub for my type of work.
There is a large banking presence here. Citi has massive campus with around 7500 employees and JP Morgan is literally right across the street. We also have Raymond James and USAA. More seem to be setting up shop all the time. It's been great for me since I grew up here. I haven't had to move to look for work and I've been able to rapidly increase my salary consistently. I believe we top the lists for best salary:COL ratio as well. I own a house less than a mile from armature works and 2 miles from downtown. Got it for a song a few years back and it has since appreciated like 70% according to recent comps when I checked back in April. The city is hot right now.
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For Ben.

These cities will have the most jobs in 2019

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Full article:https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...bs-in-2019.amp
We're not exactly hurting for jobs here and COL is quite low. We do fine. $45k for less hours and responsibility than i have now does sound good about 2-3 days out of my work week, though.

I'm just gonna cash out once Amazon moves down the street, buy some place for cash in a smaller city, and retire by age 40.
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