Gun Rights: Should you be allowed to own an RPG?
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As for the guy with the camera... I agree that using portrait mode should be a felony.
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An easy recent example is the footage of the Mandalay Bay shooting in Vegas, with hundreds of people running directly towards the MB, where the shooting was coming from because echo's off the surrounding buildings and structures made it sound like the bullets were coming from miltiple directions.
When faced with an assailant who possesses a ranged weapon and holds high ground, wouldn't running towards the base of the building be much safer than running away from it?
That's grounds for summary execution. No trial, no jury, just a rope.
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Consider this... the .338LM has 300" of drop at 1000yds. What this means is that if you dial in for 1000yds, and aim center mass, the guy is actually at 990yds, your bullet flies over his head.
Now imagine that the range is rapidly decreasing to the tune of 100yds every 12-15seconds (depending on how fast the guy is) and you're on the 15th floor of a bldg. What you would have to do would be to quickly set your scope to minimum magnification and dial for a pre-calibrated distance (say 200yds), and wait for the guy to run through that distance as you fire. You get one shot with a window of like 1/50th of a second.
Now, if somebody started out at 1000yds running sideways to you... and they arc'd their run to stay exactly 1000yds the whole time... and you knew the exact speed they were running... and they would stay at that exact course and speed while you did all the math, dialed the scope, lined up, took the shot, waited for the bullet to get there.
Now just take all those numbers down to just 100yds... does it get any easier? Easier enough to still not be incredibly difficult?
The farther away you are from the shooter, the safer you'll be under all circumstances.
All that being said... there's this guy:
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Private ownership of guns has been prohibited in Mexico since 1968.
We have 2.6 times the population and they absolutely kill us on murder.
We really need to open that border or we are xenophobes/white nationalists according to a poster on this forum.
We have 2.6 times the population and they absolutely kill us on murder.
We really need to open that border or we are xenophobes/white nationalists according to a poster on this forum.
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other stories of last week you'll never hear about:
Sunday, August 5th. Mansfield, Ohio. A woman was in the shower when her estranged boyfriend, 24-year-old Terrance Hampton, broke into her home by removing an air conditioning unit and crawling through the window. Last month Hampton had come into the house and assaulted her, police confirmed. This time, however, she was able to grab a gun that she kept for protection and repeatedly warned Hampton to leave. Instead, he started coming at her, at which point she shot him and he fled. https://fox8.com/…/domestic-violence-victim-shoots-estrang…/
• Monday, August 6th. Kingsley, Michigan. A 12-year-old girl called 911 after spotting a hooded, gloved man outside her home’s sliding door. The man forced his way into the home’s attached garage before a relative of the girl, who lives next door, spotted the home invader and confronted him with a .22-caliber rifle. The man fled in his car but was later found by police in possession of items stolen from the girl’s home. http://www.record-eagle.com/…/article_307dc279-ea3b-5191-ad…
• Tuesday, August 7th. Houston, Texas. A 69-year-old female resident was confronted by a man exposing himself while riding a bike. The woman told the man to leave her alone. The man walked around to the front of her home and looked as though he was going to attempt to enter. The woman went inside her home and retrieved a gun. Fearing for her safety and that of her young grandchildren who were also inside the residence, the woman again demanded Johnson leave them alone. When Johnson reached for the front door of the home, the woman shot him one time, striking him in the abdomen. He was treated at a local hospital and charged with criminal trespass and indecent exposure. https://cityofhouston.news/suspect-arrested-charged-in-sho…/
• Wednesday, August 8th. Lexington, Kentucky. An apartment complex suffered multiple break-ins before the spree was ended by an armed resident. 34-year-old Shawn Michael Woods was shot and killed while attempting to burglarize the resident’s apartment. Police ruled it a case of self-defense. http://www.lex18.com/…/police-man-in-critical-condition-aft…
• Thursday, August 9th. Forest City, North Carolina. 46-year-old Steven Kelley was assaulting his girlfriend in front of the woman’s 3 children, strangling her and yelling that he was going to cut her throat and kill everyone in the house. The victim's teenaged daughter retrieved a firearm and fired twice, striking Kelley in the chest, killing him. According to police, Kelley had threatened the woman several times previously and was a convicted felon with two active domestic violence protection orders against him from two different women. http://www.foxcarolina.com/…/deputies-investigating-shootin…
• Friday, August 10th. Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania. A pizza delivery driver walking back to his car, was stabbed by a man attempting to rob him. The pizza delivery driver managed to grab a gun he kept in his car and shot the attacker, identified as 29-year-old Ryan Cornelius Leonard. The driver called police as Leonard fled. Leonard was later found dead. The delivery driver was taken to the hospital, but there is no word on his condition. https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/…/one-person-dead-after-sh…/
• Saturday, August 11th. Indianapolis, Indiana. A man attempted to rob a Get Go convenience store with customers inside it. Two armed customers opened fire on the suspect, who was transported to the hospital in critical condition, but later died. https://www.wthr.com/…/person-dead-after-trying-rob-conveni…
Sunday, August 5th. Mansfield, Ohio. A woman was in the shower when her estranged boyfriend, 24-year-old Terrance Hampton, broke into her home by removing an air conditioning unit and crawling through the window. Last month Hampton had come into the house and assaulted her, police confirmed. This time, however, she was able to grab a gun that she kept for protection and repeatedly warned Hampton to leave. Instead, he started coming at her, at which point she shot him and he fled. https://fox8.com/…/domestic-violence-victim-shoots-estrang…/
• Monday, August 6th. Kingsley, Michigan. A 12-year-old girl called 911 after spotting a hooded, gloved man outside her home’s sliding door. The man forced his way into the home’s attached garage before a relative of the girl, who lives next door, spotted the home invader and confronted him with a .22-caliber rifle. The man fled in his car but was later found by police in possession of items stolen from the girl’s home. http://www.record-eagle.com/…/article_307dc279-ea3b-5191-ad…
• Tuesday, August 7th. Houston, Texas. A 69-year-old female resident was confronted by a man exposing himself while riding a bike. The woman told the man to leave her alone. The man walked around to the front of her home and looked as though he was going to attempt to enter. The woman went inside her home and retrieved a gun. Fearing for her safety and that of her young grandchildren who were also inside the residence, the woman again demanded Johnson leave them alone. When Johnson reached for the front door of the home, the woman shot him one time, striking him in the abdomen. He was treated at a local hospital and charged with criminal trespass and indecent exposure. https://cityofhouston.news/suspect-arrested-charged-in-sho…/
• Wednesday, August 8th. Lexington, Kentucky. An apartment complex suffered multiple break-ins before the spree was ended by an armed resident. 34-year-old Shawn Michael Woods was shot and killed while attempting to burglarize the resident’s apartment. Police ruled it a case of self-defense. http://www.lex18.com/…/police-man-in-critical-condition-aft…
• Thursday, August 9th. Forest City, North Carolina. 46-year-old Steven Kelley was assaulting his girlfriend in front of the woman’s 3 children, strangling her and yelling that he was going to cut her throat and kill everyone in the house. The victim's teenaged daughter retrieved a firearm and fired twice, striking Kelley in the chest, killing him. According to police, Kelley had threatened the woman several times previously and was a convicted felon with two active domestic violence protection orders against him from two different women. http://www.foxcarolina.com/…/deputies-investigating-shootin…
• Friday, August 10th. Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania. A pizza delivery driver walking back to his car, was stabbed by a man attempting to rob him. The pizza delivery driver managed to grab a gun he kept in his car and shot the attacker, identified as 29-year-old Ryan Cornelius Leonard. The driver called police as Leonard fled. Leonard was later found dead. The delivery driver was taken to the hospital, but there is no word on his condition. https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/…/one-person-dead-after-sh…/
• Saturday, August 11th. Indianapolis, Indiana. A man attempted to rob a Get Go convenience store with customers inside it. Two armed customers opened fire on the suspect, who was transported to the hospital in critical condition, but later died. https://www.wthr.com/…/person-dead-after-trying-rob-conveni…
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As a Libertarian, I say let them have access to any drugs they want to buy with their money. I also say in the same vein that there shall not be any of my money going to support people who will not or cannot work because they are on drugs. And there should be strong limitations on public health care money spent on drug use-related issues. Example: if you overdose on drugs and want to get a ride in the pretty ambulance you better have health insurance paid for.
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As a Libertarian, I say let them have access to any drugs they want to buy with their money. I also say in the same vein that there shall not be any of my money going to support people who will not or cannot work because they are on drugs. And there should be strong limitations on public health care money spent on drug use-related issues. Example: if you overdose on drugs and want to get a ride in the pretty ambulance you better have health insurance paid for.
Your first statement has already been shown to not be reality, even in your own state. Drug testing welfare recipients cost more than denying benefits to those who tested positive. Lower class, single white women are the largest benefactors of welfare, not drug-addled minorities.
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There is a long rabbit hole of "you made certain choices we shouldn't pay for" in that line of reasoning (why should my health insurance cost more to cover Type 2 diabetics that chose to be unhealthy fat bodies?). When it comes to drug/alcohol issues, I'm in the camp of "Let's treat it like the health issue that it is" and try to get people rehabbed so they can become functioning, and tax-paying, members of society again.
Your first statement has already been shown to not be reality, even in your own state. Drug testing welfare recipients cost more than denying benefits to those who tested positive. Lower class, single white women are the largest benefactors of welfare, not drug-addled minorities.
Your first statement has already been shown to not be reality, even in your own state. Drug testing welfare recipients cost more than denying benefits to those who tested positive. Lower class, single white women are the largest benefactors of welfare, not drug-addled minorities.
And don't care about drug-addled minorities. What I had in mind when I said what I said was specifically a scrawny tweaker scrap metal Junkie white guy like I see all the damn time around here.
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lawl.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/suspects-m...ry?id=57160858
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A New Mexico judge agreed on Monday to release five suspects who were arrested on child abuse charges and were alleged to have been training the children to carry out school shootings. The decision to release the suspects on bond came against the wishes of the sheriff's department and FBI.
The suspects -- two men and three women -- were arrested last week at a makeshift compound in Amalia, New Mexico, where authorities rescued 11 emaciated children living in filthy conditions with very little food and no clean water, according to police.
Judge Sarah Backus ordered the suspects -- Siraj Ibn Wahhaj, 40, Lucas Morton, 40, Jany Leveille, 35, Hujrah Wahhaj, 37, and Subhannah Wahhaj, 35 -- released on $20,000 bond each on Monday evening and ordered them to wear ankle monitors until trial, the Taos County Sheriff's Office announced.
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The Taos County sheriff, undersheriff, prosecutors and an FBI agent involved in the case all argued the five adults should not be released, Albuquerque ABC affiliate KOAT reported. The judge, however, said they failed to articulate a "specific threat."
The suspects -- two men and three women -- were arrested last week at a makeshift compound in Amalia, New Mexico, where authorities rescued 11 emaciated children living in filthy conditions with very little food and no clean water, according to police.
Judge Sarah Backus ordered the suspects -- Siraj Ibn Wahhaj, 40, Lucas Morton, 40, Jany Leveille, 35, Hujrah Wahhaj, 37, and Subhannah Wahhaj, 35 -- released on $20,000 bond each on Monday evening and ordered them to wear ankle monitors until trial, the Taos County Sheriff's Office announced.
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The Taos County sheriff, undersheriff, prosecutors and an FBI agent involved in the case all argued the five adults should not be released, Albuquerque ABC affiliate KOAT reported. The judge, however, said they failed to articulate a "specific threat."
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ontrol-polici/
Citigroup and Bank of America had said they would work only with retailers who agreed to new restrictions on gun purchases — rules stricter than what federal law requires.
Louisiana’s bond commission said it wouldn’t tolerate that kind of bullying over a constitutional right and voted 7-6 to block the companies from gaining a piece of the financing for a $600 million highway plan.
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The vote was a win for pro-gun advocates looking to make inroads in a debate that is increasingly spilling into the corporate arena, and comes as major service companies and social media giants move to adopt anti-firearms policies.
Louisiana’s bond commission said it wouldn’t tolerate that kind of bullying over a constitutional right and voted 7-6 to block the companies from gaining a piece of the financing for a $600 million highway plan.
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The vote was a win for pro-gun advocates looking to make inroads in a debate that is increasingly spilling into the corporate arena, and comes as major service companies and social media giants move to adopt anti-firearms policies.
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Citigroup and Bank of America had said they would work only with retailers who agreed to new restrictions on gun purchases — rules stricter than what federal law requires.
Louisiana’s bond commission said it wouldn’t tolerate that kind of bullying over a constitutional right and voted 7-6 to block the companies from gaining a piece of the financing for a $600 million highway plan.
Louisiana’s bond commission said it wouldn’t tolerate that kind of bullying over a constitutional right and voted 7-6 to block the companies from gaining a piece of the financing for a $600 million highway plan.
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bloodty ell, usa. you blokes, be needing to ban guns shouldn't we? oi!
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