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Old 03-30-2018, 12:12 PM
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Stupid f****** entitled snowflake. Try to get a job singing for a record company now.
Y U wte males so entitled?
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If I'm hiring someone straight out of college, I look at their interests and hobbies to see how hands-on they are naturally. I.e., trying to separate the natural-born engineers from someone who just did it to get a job.
I got into a huge shitstorm on another forum for suggesting that male engineers are, on average, better at actual engineering than their female counterparts.

The reason I stated this was from years of contractor work. I have had literally dozens of jobs, in all sorts of industries. In almost every place I've worked, the guys go home and do more engineering: model rocketry, vehicles (cars, boats, planes, etc), some form of wood or metal working. You get the pic, and are probably that way yourself. On the other hand, most of the women left the job at work, and did not pursue those types of hobbies. I have, however, noticed that women seem better at herding engineers. Maybe nerdy men need a mommy figure?
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On the other hand, most of the women left the job at work, and did not pursue those types of hobbies. I have, however, noticed that women seem better at herding engineers. Maybe nerdy men need a mommy figure?
Different people have different skill sets and many of them are complementary. This is the real reason that diversity is key. Certain segments of the population are more prone to have certain skill sets. I think often times this has more to do with societal pressures and expectations than it has to do with biology but it's true all the same. Most people take offense to statements that one gender is better than the other at some specific skill (i.e. engineering) because there is really an underlying causal characteristic (i.e. prevalence of work related hobbies) which is being assigned to the 'better' gender. This characteristic may present itself more often in one of the genders but it can often be attributed to societal expectations and resulting pressures to conform instead of an innate biological advantage. By making a statement like 'men are, on average, better at engineering than women' instead of, "people who have engineering related hobbies are, on average, better at engineering than people who only engineer at work' you are mis-attributing the causal characteristic and reinforcing a societal stereotype. That is why people get upset about it.

The only skill set that this does not apply to is athletic ability (usually as a result of increased strength and size) as it is essentially universally accepted that, on average, men are substantially bigger and stronger than women for strictly biological reasons. This type of consensus does not currently exist as it relates to cognitive abilities.
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A Millennial Job Interview

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Originally Posted by hornetball
I hire from several countries as well. I find that engineering graduates from US universities (ABET accredited engineering programs -- not "technology" degrees) tend to be really good because of the workload, difficulty and aggressive attrition. (...). Foreign colleges (I have experience with Indian and Chinese engineering graduates) don't seem to have the same philosophy though -- they are more like "engineer-factories." Those folks are still useful for basic things like testing, but, with a few exceptions, you can't do hardcore development or R&D with them.
My experience has been similar in this, having also managed engineers in a software development role both from US colleges and abroad.

In general, if give a Chinese or Indian software engineer a very comprehensive and well-designed specification (including precise details about stuff like the UI that we sometimes tend not to think too much about), they will crank out a piece of working code which conforms precisely to the specification and functions exactly as designed; no more, no less.

By comparison, if the specification for the project is ambiguous, or in a state of constant change, you will wind up with a bloated and barely-functional mess.

Graduates of US universities, by comparison, seem much better at dealing with ambiguity and change. They learn in school how to make educated guesses, how to resolve contradictions, and are just generally better at problem-solving and thinking on their feet.



Sometimes this can be a bad thing.



Engineers who know how to think for themselves will often decide "well, this part of the spec is bullshit, I know a better way to do it," and then you get into interesting situations where the code works fine for years, and then one day everything goes completely to **** for no obvious reason and you have a total manufacturing hold.



I had this happen to me about twelve years ago. PR&E had been manufacturing the Airwave Digital audio console since 1999. It used Freescale (Motorola) DSP chips to do all the audio processing. They'd outsourced the code for the DSPs to a US based company.

The product worked fine for years. Then, all of a sudden, we stopped being able to build one that worked. Literally 100% failure rate during factory test. We spent weeks probing around with oscilloscopes and logic analyzers, and finally discovered that on boards which used DSP chips manufactured after a certain date, a certain clock circuit inside the DSP just wasn't running.

Talked with Freescale, and they said that they'd moved production for that chip from a factory in Thailand to a factory in Malaysia. Hadn't made any design changes, but the new factory was obviously using different masks in the silicon fab line.

Long story short: when they built the new masks used to expose the photosensitized silicon wafer to light during etching, a few lines drifted around by a couple of nanometers, and changed the sensitivity of some random transistor. It worked fine so long as you initialized some register with the value that they suggested in the design guide, but our engineer had taken a shortcut.

OK, no big deal. Open the code, fix the initialization value for that register, re-compile, and we're back in business.

Except that the guy who wrote the code was dead, and nobody could find his source code.

Enter the skills I learned in my youth from pirating cable TV on first-gen Scientific Atlanta digital boxes. (Digitally-controlled, not digital TV. This was back in the gated-sync era.)

I took the raw hex file that we burn into the EEPROMS, and ran it through a disassembler. I kinda knew enough 68000 assembly to read the result, and this chip used basically the same instruction set. I knew what the register address was, so I searched the de-compiled code until I found a store operation with it as the target. Read the value, and sure enough it's wrong. I then figured out what the hex values were for the incorrect command, and searched the raw hexadecimal binary until I found them (remember: Motorola binaries are written backwards.) Keyed in the correct hex value, saved the file, handed it to the girl who burns the ROMs and had her make a fresh set, popped them into a non-working unit, and magically, it worked.

The whole engineering department thought I was a ******* god. No, just a kid who learned how to hack code for the purposes of watching HBO for free.


But we wouldn't have been in this situation if the original developer wasn't a cowboy who thought he knew better than Motorola how to program their chips.







Originally Posted by rleete
In almost every place I've worked, the guys go home and do more engineering: model rocketry, vehicles (cars, boats, planes, etc), some form of wood or metal working. You get the pic, and are probably that way yourself. On the other hand, most of the women left the job at work, and did not pursue those types of hobbies. I have, however, noticed that women seem better at herding engineers. Maybe nerdy men need a mommy figure?
I've often lamented the fact that, after a long day of doing engineering at work, I relax and unwind by doing more engineering.

And my experience mirrors yours. Female engineers do seem to make better engineering managers than males. In terms of both big-picture organizational skills (the ability to juggle a hundred ideas at once) as well as small-scale interpersonal skills, I agree that the women who I have worked alongside in this role seem far more effective, and for more confident, than myself and my male colleagues at this task. Here at WGN, I work with a lady by the name of Cathy, a very grandmotherly type, who is in charge of the whole operations department. (The folks who use the stuff that my team builds to actually make TV.) We were talking about this yesterday- she doesn't even know how big her staff is (it's well over a hundred people), but her department runs like a Swiss watch. It's one of the things that I just always assume will be ok.

No matter what chaos we create in the engineering department, no matter what bizarre requests get handed down from news and production, it just gets done. "Oh, we've got Cubs, White Sox AND Bulls games today, and one of them in in a rain delay, and there was just a mass-shooting so we're in breaking news mode, and the President has a scheduled press conference from Paris, and Studio 2 is on fire, and Galaxy 14 (one of our primary satellites) just fell out of orbit unexpectedly? No problem, bro- we got this."
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Except that the guy who wrote the code was dead, and nobody could find his source code.
I love Subversion. Actually, for all the griping I do about the government, regulations and creating products that have to be certified, it's comforting to know I won't ever be in this particular situation.

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Female engineers do seem to make better engineering managers than males.
Our engineering director is an Indian female. She's fantastic. She herds all the cats across various time zones. And she's tough as nails -- nothing phases her. Based upon my own childhood, I think part of that came from being born and raised in the "Third World." The huge win for me was offloading all that cat herding so I could focus on the technology. And I'll just state right now that she is far better at managing than I could ever hope to be. OTOH, she has no idea what I do, and she's afraid to fly in a test aircraft.

Her mother hates me though. This lady has totally taken to being a super-independent, in-charge USA female. She lords over her male Indian counterparts (both here and in Bangalore). They're terrified of her. I have to work to hide my inner laughter.

She has two sons. I've already earmarked her oldest for being a perfect USNA candidate. He'll be a fine Naval Officer. I'm having to warm her up to the idea -- she still "sort of" trusts me for some reason.
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"Ringknocker" comes to mind.
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I turn 30 this year. If you want to get technical, I am a millennial. At this point, it's the one thing someone can say that gets under my skin. Some of the older people I work with on a daily basis use that as their trump card when we're talking ****. "Yeah, well. That's something a millennial would say". Sends shivers up my spine.
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Sends shivers up my spine.
And here I thought I was the only one who sent shivers up your spine...
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Haha . . . yeah, well . . .

Seriously, I'd do it again in a heartbeat. You would too if someone would have pointed you in that direction.
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Hahaha! I'm stealing that.
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SJWs ruin everything:

What’s Going On at Sci-Fi Conventions?

Over the last year, conventions and geek-fandom have become an increasingly dangerous place for anyone who identifies as even moderately on the right. The troubles began with New York Comic Con, when YouTube reviewer Richard C. Meyer, with the channel Diversity & Comics, was targeted for harassment by comic book professionals who conspired in a secret Facebook group to harass him and “goad him into throwing a punch,” one said. The goal would be to get him banned from conventions for his violence, intentionally inciting an incident.

The problems have only become worse in 2018. East Coast Comic Con announced they would not allow Kevin Sorbo at their event because of his ties to Sean Hannity. Worldcon banned me under dubious circumstances because of my political writings. And ConCarolinas was set to have John Ringo, one of the biggest authors in the industry, at their convention.

Who Is John Ringo And Why Does He Matter?

John Ringo is no stranger to fighting SJWs. As a wildly successful author with more than two decades in the business, he recalls the year 2000 as being a particularly difficult time at his first convention, shortly after the 2000 election where George Bush narrowly defeated Al Gore in the Electoral College.

“What struck me from the beginning was how the conservatives (many) at the con had to hide in the shadows, furtively whispering the secret passwords and passing microdot notes like they were in East Germany,” Ringo told DANGEROUS. “By the same token, the leftists were free to vent any old idiocy, any lie, any distortion or falsehood without anyone speaking up and telling them they were full of ****. As soon as I broke the hymen and revealed myself as a conservative it was game on and no holds barred. At that con I very nearly got into a fistfight with a magazine publisher at a room party. It has been one **** storm after another ever since.”

According to Ringo, the convention then pushed its conservative members out of its planning committee, attendance dropped over years, and it’s now defunct. “Get woke, go broke,” he says of any organization who bows to SJW pressure.

ConCarolinas initially didn’t respond to the nasty trolling and threats of boycotts, but after deliberating over the weekend, they sent Ringo an email disinviting him from the convention because, as the convention chair said on Twitter, “the con could not guarantee Ringo wouldn’t be walking into a hostile environment. John wanted to have fun. A reasonable request. The con could not guarantee that he wouldn’t be subject to people being ugly to him.”

Ringo recalls the interchange with the convention to be a bit more serious, stating he was asked not to attend because, “we were going to have to hire full time security guards and maybe off-duty police during peak hours.”

If the crowd is prone to be as violent as he suggests, and it has gotten increasingly worse over these last few years, why won’t the conventions do something to protect their conservative guests?

What Can We Do To Fix The Problem?

Ringo doesn’t believe there’s an answer to the problem of the SJW outrage brigade in the near future. “What is not definitely conservative is eventually taken over by the left, gutted, skinned and used as a cloak while they dance around demanding respect,” Ringo said.

“Who wants to sit through a lecture on intersectionality and wokeness when they came to learn how to write? Some masochists, maybe, but most thinking people want to learn the craft, not Socialist Doctrine. So more and more will fold. People will say it’s because ‘people just aren’t reading anymore’ or whatever. But the reality is, socialism kills everything it touches.”

It seems to have been the case in the publishing industry, as fewer and fewer publishing houses appear to be able to compete each year. Independent books are subsequently taking more of the market share. Writers like Ringo, contrarily, are doing well because he doesn’t water down his books with political correctness, giving a very authentic voice to his series Black Tide Rising and others. His third book in the Monster Hunteruniverse, co-authored with right-leaning Larry Correia, is titled Monster Hunter Memoirs: Saints, is available for pre-order on July 3rd.

As the conventions continue to push themselves into irrelevancy by bowing to the SJW pressure, Ringo urges readers to fight back.

“Keep up with what any con you’re planning on attending is doing. If they cave to the SJW mobs, don’t go,” Ringo said.

“Tell them you’re not going and why. Cancel your membership if you bought one and ask for your money back. Money talks. Show the publishers that it’s a bad idea to ‘get woke’ financially. People say ‘I don’t read/watch TV on the basis of politics. Your enemies, my enemies too, do so. And they attack, attack, attack every single damned day. Wonder why there’s never anything good on TV or in the bookstores? Because we let the Left take over all of that (nearly all) and it went to ****. And it’s only going to get worse. We have to fight back. And unfortunately, we have to fight back every damned day. Because it’s like being a cop or a security guard or a sentry. The bad guys can choose their time. We have to be eternally vigilant,” Ringo said.

We have to fight back, and the best way we can do so is to support authors like John Ringo, and as he says, not give money to people who hate us. It’s the only way the culture is going to change. It’s reaching a tipping point where anyone who speaks out on the right is blacklisted, berated, defamed, or worse. It’s on us to make the change so that artists don’t have to face this kind of abuse in the future.
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rofl:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/17/star...ation-day.html

Starbucks to close all company-owned stores on the afternoon of May 29 for racial-bias education day

  • Starbucks will close 8,000 of the company's U.S.-based locations to train 175,000 employees and address implicit bias, promote inclusion and help prevent discrimination.
  • Once the company has completed this training at its company-owned locations it will make the it available to its licensed partners.
  • The company is working with the Anti-Defamation League, the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund and the Equal Justice Initiative, among others to create the program.
when the left eats the left.
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when the left is left without parent supervision:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/art...t-12839281.php

Sure, San Francisco has great facets worthy of postcards and travel books, but it also has a worsening underbelly that D’Alessandro says he can no longer gloss over.

People injecting themselves with drugs in broad daylight, their dirty needles and other garbage strewn on the sidewalks. Tent camps. Human feces. The threatening behavior of some people who appear either mentally ill or high. Petty theft.

“The streets are filthy. There’s trash everywhere. It’s disgusting,” D’Alessandro said, adding he’s traveled the world, and San Francisco stands out for the wrong reasons. “I’ve never seen any other city like this — the homelessness, dirty streets, drug use on the streets, smash-and-grabs.

“How can it be?” he continued. “How can it have gotten to this point?”

Remember, this is the man whose job is to glorify San Francisco, which tells you something about how far the city has sunk.

“We can’t be quiet anymore,” D’Alessandro said. “We’ve got such a glorious history, such a beautiful setting, and the fact is, we’re letting it all slip away into this quality of life now that is not good for anybody. We’ve become complacent, and I think we’ve taken this as a kind of new normal, and it’s not. It’s wrong, and we have to do something about it.”

He said so many visitors are sending complaints to him about their experiences in San Francisco, he’s got to speak up. He joins a growing chorus of people whose jobs make them dubious about telling a columnist their real opinions of San Francisco, but who say they have to because working behind the scenes isn’t moving the needle. Well, so to speak.

In January, I told you about hotel managers and owners speaking out. Kevin Carroll, executive director of the Hotel Council, which represents 110 hotels, said at the time, “People say, ‘I love your city, I love your restaurants, but I’ll never come back.’”

In February, I told you that the Union Square Business Improvement District, which assesses extra property taxes to pay for services in the shopping mecca, was having to train retail workers on what to do when a severely mentally ill or drug-addicted person wreaks havoc in their store.
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This is a great thread.
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