Folks be all blowed up in Boston...
05-06-2013 | 09:50 AM
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Seriously, the Birther movement has nothing to do with Obama's creed, beliefs, or opinions, and everything to do with the color of his skin. Why? Name one other president, ever, that has had to deal with anything like the birther movement. Please, I'd love to hear any other examples. I'm completely unaware of any in recent history, but I would be fascinated to hear of something I'm not aware of on this topic.
Thomas Jefferson was harassed constantly of not being a legitimate American because of his ties to France; he spoke French, had a French cook, even lived in France for 5 years. They also harassed him saying he had a slave baby; which has turned out to be possibly true.
- President John Tyler was known as "His Accidency" because in 1841 he became the first president to assume office due to the death of his predecessor.
- Rutherford B. Hayes was dubbed "His Fraudulency" because he assumed office after losing the popular vote in 1876 in a disputed election that he won by one electoral vote.
- Martin Van Buren was accused of not being fit for office because he allegedly wore a woman's corset.
- When Lincoln was elected in 1860, Southerners did not consider him legitimate.
- Some accused JFKennedy's father of buying the election; others said Democratic operatives had stolen votes for Kennedy in Chicago, Illinois, a Democratic stronghold and that Nixon would have won if he contested the vote.
- Lyndon B. Johnson's presidency was said to be illegitimate because people believed he was complicit in the assassination of Kennedy.
- Bush v. Gore
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05-06-2013 | 10:58 AM
#523
I seem to remember Jefferson and especially Hamilton writing scathing letters under pen names (Internet anonimity of the time) prior to the start of our grand experiment. Nothing new.
Socialists and liberals have found they can buy 100 votes and pay for it with the taxes of one citizen who disagrees with them. Just call them mean or racist or selfish for wanting to keep their own money.
11,000 more people on food stamps every day mean the left is "winning" the argument.
Socialists and liberals have found they can buy 100 votes and pay for it with the taxes of one citizen who disagrees with them. Just call them mean or racist or selfish for wanting to keep their own money.
11,000 more people on food stamps every day mean the left is "winning" the argument.
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05-07-2013 | 10:56 AM
#527
stop feeding the liberal trolls you racist.
some in this thread, still maintain their friend in Bengazhi was killed in response to him producing a disgusting video about muslims. They also maintain that Trayvon was murdered by a racist kid out for black blood. This is just what they do, because tragedies are good at exploiting the agenda and repeating the same tired talking points and distracting us from real conversation that goes against their narrow mindset.
some in this thread, still maintain their friend in Bengazhi was killed in response to him producing a disgusting video about muslims. They also maintain that Trayvon was murdered by a racist kid out for black blood. This is just what they do, because tragedies are good at exploiting the agenda and repeating the same tired talking points and distracting us from real conversation that goes against their narrow mindset.
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05-29-2013 | 03:19 PM
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Some good questions:
WHO in Boston: Bombing Story Mysteries - WhoWhatWhy
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WhoWhatWhy - Groundbreaking Investigative Journalism
WHO in Boston: Bombing Story Mysteries - WhoWhatWhy
and more articles
WhoWhatWhy - Groundbreaking Investigative Journalism
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06-26-2013 | 11:07 AM
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Wait, there's more!
http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/06/23/was...ed-by-the-fbi/
This was my initial hypothesis too, that the bastard was an informant recruited by the FBI:
http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/06/23/was...ed-by-the-fbi/
This was my initial hypothesis too, that the bastard was an informant recruited by the FBI:
There is a strong possibility that Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the older of the two brothers, was a double agent, perhaps recruited by the FBI.
If Tsarnaev was a double agent, he would be just one of thousands of young people coerced by the FBI, as the price for settling a minor legal problem, into a dangerous career as an informant.
That he was so coerced is the easiest explanation for two seemingly incompatible incidents in his life:
The first is that he returned to Russia in 2012, ostensibly to renew his Russian passport so he could file an application for US citizenship.
The second is that Tsarnaev then jeopardized his citizenship application with conspicuous, provocative — almost theatrical — behavior that seemed more caricature than characteristic of a Muslim extremist.
If Tsarnaev was a double agent, he would be just one of thousands of young people coerced by the FBI, as the price for settling a minor legal problem, into a dangerous career as an informant.
That he was so coerced is the easiest explanation for two seemingly incompatible incidents in his life:
The first is that he returned to Russia in 2012, ostensibly to renew his Russian passport so he could file an application for US citizenship.
The second is that Tsarnaev then jeopardized his citizenship application with conspicuous, provocative — almost theatrical — behavior that seemed more caricature than characteristic of a Muslim extremist.
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06-26-2013 | 11:33 AM
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From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Are you familiar with the 1992 film Sneakers, starring Robert Redford and Ben Kingsley?
In this film, Redford plays an ex-hacker still on the run who now operates a private tiger-team, staffed entirely by busted former hackers (and one ex-CIA type). One of his team, codename "mother" is played by Dan Aykroyd and has a propensity for spinning wild conspiracy theories.
Most of the dialogue goes something like this:
This is kind of how I envision you.
In this film, Redford plays an ex-hacker still on the run who now operates a private tiger-team, staffed entirely by busted former hackers (and one ex-CIA type). One of his team, codename "mother" is played by Dan Aykroyd and has a propensity for spinning wild conspiracy theories.
Most of the dialogue goes something like this:
Mother: They've even got photos of the guy leaving the embassy, through the back service entrance. Hey, Crease, you on?
Donald Crease: Yeah, I'm on.
Mother: Were you still in C.I.A. in '72?
Donald Crease: Yeah, why?
Mother: Did you know the Deputy Director of Planning was down in Managua, Nicaragua the day before the earthquake?
Donald Crease: Now what are you saying, the C.I.A. caused the Managua earthquake?
Mother: Well, I can't prove it, but...
(...)
Donald Crease: Now what are you saying, the NSA killed Kennedy?
Mother: No, they shot him but they didn't kill him. He's still alive.
(...)
Mother (reading a tabloid): Cattle mutilations are up.
Donald Crease: Don't.
Mother: Sorry.
Donald Crease: Yeah, I'm on.
Mother: Were you still in C.I.A. in '72?
Donald Crease: Yeah, why?
Mother: Did you know the Deputy Director of Planning was down in Managua, Nicaragua the day before the earthquake?
Donald Crease: Now what are you saying, the C.I.A. caused the Managua earthquake?
Mother: Well, I can't prove it, but...
(...)
Donald Crease: Now what are you saying, the NSA killed Kennedy?
Mother: No, they shot him but they didn't kill him. He's still alive.
(...)
Mother (reading a tabloid): Cattle mutilations are up.
Donald Crease: Don't.
Mother: Sorry.
This is kind of how I envision you.
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06-26-2013 | 12:00 PM
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Terrorist Plots, Hatched by the F.B.I.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/op...anted=all&_r=0
Given the FBI's documented history, why would it be so far fetched that the bombing was an entrapment operation completely gone awry, and the ones responsible are now shitting bricks and trying to cover it up?
It doesn't help that the FBI investigators involved fell out of a helicopter:
http://news.msn.com/rumors/rumor-fbi...bombing-arrest
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06-26-2013 | 01:00 PM
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From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Close, but not quite. It was gray, but it wasn't a plane.
Many people have speculated that the US Government was somehow involved in a conspiracy to demolish the WTC in order to justify a decade-long series of foreign wars and "finish the job" started by King Bush the First.
In reality, however, it was the Bronies.
I have proof:
Many people have speculated that the US Government was somehow involved in a conspiracy to demolish the WTC in order to justify a decade-long series of foreign wars and "finish the job" started by King Bush the First.
In reality, however, it was the Bronies.
I have proof:
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06-26-2013 | 01:08 PM
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Close, but not quite. It was gray, but it wasn't a plane.
Many people have speculated that the US Government was somehow involved in a conspiracy to demolish the WTC in order to justify a decade-long series of foreign wars and "finish the job" started by King Bush the First.
In reality, however, it was the Bronies.
I have proof:
Many people have speculated that the US Government was somehow involved in a conspiracy to demolish the WTC in order to justify a decade-long series of foreign wars and "finish the job" started by King Bush the First.
In reality, however, it was the Bronies.
I have proof:
The wool has been pulled over my eyes for so long, I'm not sure what do with this new information.
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06-26-2013 | 02:55 PM
#540
Yes, nothing ever goes awry with secret government plans and stings... cough, cough, operation fast and furious, cough.
The easy answer is to always kill the recruit as a potential baddie to cover it up if everything goes to hell.
If you were planning an attack and heard over the loudspeaker that there was going to be a police exercise with extra interdiction personnel and a mock explosive set off, would you think it was a good idea to proceed with your own bomb with all of that extra scrutiny? You would if you thought what you were doing was part of the exercise.
The easy answer is to always kill the recruit as a potential baddie to cover it up if everything goes to hell.
If you were planning an attack and heard over the loudspeaker that there was going to be a police exercise with extra interdiction personnel and a mock explosive set off, would you think it was a good idea to proceed with your own bomb with all of that extra scrutiny? You would if you thought what you were doing was part of the exercise.
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