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Originally Posted by Bajingo
(Post 1585805)
My biggest thing is Trump won Florida easily. How the hell are the rest of the swing states so close when Florida is clearly Trump.
Don't forget there was the greatest voter turnout this year in history with the most low-energy, small-dick, zero-supporters, zero-enthusiasm candidate running along with a new, easily manipulated, zero-auditing, zero-validated, non-secure method of voting. coincidence? |
Are we still waiting on a few graveyards in GA to report, I'm assuming?
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Originally Posted by Stock
(Post 1585815)
Are we still waiting on a few graveyards in GA to report, I'm assuming?
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d1&oe=5FD45AA4 not suspect at all. https://www.cbs46.com/news/some-ball...809fbdc79.html Some ballots will not be counted until Wednesday in Fulton County
Almost like the delayed on purpose to figure out how many exact votes they needed to push Biden over the top. almost. and it could have been done, with the help of the $15 million grant from the Mark Zuckerberg-funded Center for Technology and Civic Life (CTCL) “safe elections” project given to Fulton, Cobb, and Gwinnett. could. https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...2f&oe=5FD3CDD8 |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1585782)
2016: 62,984,828
2020: 72,460,799* 9,425,971 more votes for him this year. Obama: 2008: 69,498,516 2012: 65,915,795 3,581,721 LESS votes So was it really referendum on Trump? You have to factor in voter turnout, which has several underlying factors: A voter may feel very strongly about a candidate, and may get out and vote. Another may feel a win is in the bag anyway, and does not bother leaving their couch on election day. So, the number of voting individuals may vary from one year to another for various reasons. Let's take a look at the numbers you have provided: Trump: 2016: 62,984,828 2020: 72,460,799 9,425,971 more votes for him this year. 136,669,276 people voted in 2016, representing 59.2% of the eligible citizens. As for this year, that number jumped to 158,831,694 - 165,000,000 (approximate, because too soon for an exact number), and the turnout was 66.4 - 72.1%. The difference means 22.162.418 - 28.330.724 more people voted this time around. One would expect a candidate to increase their votes in a historically tight race such as the US Presidential election. Things are the other way around for your Obama example: Obama: 2008: 69,498,516 2012: 65,915,795 3,581,721 LESS votes 131,407,000 people voted in 2008. Turnout was 57.1% In 2012, 129,235,000 people voted, with a turnout % of 54.9. Meaning, 2.172.000 fewer people cast a ballot in 2012 compared to 2008. Comparing numbers between elections would be meaningful only if the number of individuals casting a vote was the same in both cases. |
Originally Posted by Godless Commie
(Post 1585819)
You have to factor in voter turnout, which has several underlying factors: A voter may feel very strongly about a candidate, and may get out and vote.
Another may feel a win is in the bag anyway, and does not bother leaving their couch on election day. No one actually likes Biden. Voters either hated Trump so much to vote for Biden for president and then party everything else (possible), or the results were somehow manipulated (also possible) ... |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1585821)
that's my whole point...
No one actually likes Biden. Voters either hated Trump so much to vote for Biden for president and then party everything else (possible), or the results were somehow manipulated (also possible) ... You have to admit, a loudmouth orange guy who suggested we could just inject disinfectant in our bodies to combat Covid garnered a ton of disdain than anything else. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1585821)
that's my whole point...
No one actually likes Biden. Voters either hated Trump so much to vote for Biden for president and then party everything else (possible)... I believe you're probably the product of public school education if you think there are citizens that voted Biden and that voted republican down ballot. That would be a lesbian that identifies as a bisexual female. |
Originally Posted by Godless Commie
(Post 1585822)
Hate could be a pretty strong word.
You have to admit, a loudmouth orange guy who suggested we could just inject disinfectant in our bodies to combat Covid garnered a ton of disdain than anything else. he was told that, and was talking about UV light. He was posing a question and never suggested anything of the sort. Even politifact will back me up on this. Now you really do sound like a godless commie... He also disrespected japan and dumped all the fish food right? |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1585826)
He didnt come up with that, and thats not what he said.
he was told that, and was talking about UV light. He was posing a question and never suggested anything of the sort. Even politifact will back me up on this. Now you really do sound like a godless commie... He also disrespected japan and dumped all the fish food right? He talks about UV light, then he asks about using the light inside a human body, and then he suggests the disinfectant injection. Oh, I was called a Godless Commie - as an insult - for being an Atheist. I liked it so much, it has been my user name on every interwebz thing since Al Gore invented it. I find it rather disarming. |
Originally Posted by Godless Commie
(Post 1585832)
Please watch the first 48 seconds of this video.
He talks about UV light, then he asks about using the light inside a human body, and then he suggests the disinfectant injection. Oh, I was called a Godless Commie - as an insult - for being an Atheist. I liked it so much, it has been my user name on every interwebz thing since Al Gore invented it. I find it rather disarming. Let me guess, you interpreted that as "All you people should inject Lysol into your fucking veins ASAP"? Bro he's talking to a specialist off-camera about discussions that they obviously had prior to the address, not directing Americans to do anything to their bodies you fucking nit-wit. :bowrofl: |
Originally Posted by LeoNA
(Post 1585800)
Again if you were an incumbent would you consider coronavirus a plus to your re-election? Obvious not. This was retaliation by china.
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If the election was 1yr ago who would have won? What has transpired since has been against the American citizens. biden is weak and harris has un-American views. It’s going to be a tough 4yrs if biden is elected. There will be many especially the retires that are going to pay dearly.
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Originally Posted by LeoNA
(Post 1585836)
If the election was 1yr ago who would have won? What has transpired since has been against the American citizens. biden is weak and harris has un-American views. It’s going to be a tough 4yrs if biden is elected. There will be many especially the retires that are going to pay dearly.
I was asking about when you said, in reference to Coronavirus being harmful to the chances of re-election of an incumbent US President, that "This was retaliation by china." Specifically, I am curious to know in what way the Coronavirus was retaliation by China, and by what means you believe this retaliation was achieved. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1585837)
Agreed on all counts.
I was asking about when you said, in reference to Coronavirus being harmful to the chances of re-election of an incumbent US President, that "This was retaliation by china." Specifically, I am curious to know in what way the Coronavirus was retaliation by China, and by what means you believe this retaliation was achieved. If "yes", do you think they'd prefer Joe Biden or Donald Trump. |
It’s plausible. What if it is true? They admitted they were the source by accident. If they did not admit it and say it was an accident it would have been an act of war. Have you been paying attention to the threats from China over the past 3-4yrs. They have threatened the US, Canada and Europe. Tariffs, hongkong, huawei sales, huawei cfo incarceration, sand islands. I guess no one was listening.
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1585834)
Are you seriously stating that the government of China somehow engineered the Coranavirus, and then released it into the wild, as a means of retribution against President Trump?
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Originally Posted by LeoNA
(Post 1585839)
It’s plausible. What if it is true? They admitted they were the source by accident. If they did not admit it and say it was an accident it would have been an act of war. Have you been paying attention to the threats from China over the past 3-4yrs. They have threatened the US, Canada and Europe. Tariffs, hongkong, huawei sales, huawei cfo incarceration, sand islands. I guess no one was listening.
I'm asking you to describe for me: 1: The physical process by which the Government of China created a new virus, and then 2: Presupposing that this occurred, the decision-making process by which they reached the conclusion that releasing it domestically (within a Chinese city) rather than transporting it to the US and releasing it there, would be the most optimal strategy for influencing the 2020 US presidential election. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1585840)
Plausible?
I'm asking you to describe for me: 1: The physical process by which the Government of China created a new virus, and then 2: Presupposing that this occurred, the decision-making process by which they reached the conclusion that releasing it domestically (within a Chinese city) rather than transporting it to the US and releasing it there, would be the most optimal strategy for influencing the 2020 US presidential election. 1: Vilogists? 2: Maybe by mistake? Why are we assuming that domestic release was intentional in this super fun who-dunnit? |
Originally Posted by Stock
(Post 1585833)
you fucking nit-wit.
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You need a description of the process to convince you that it could have potentially been on purpose? Your in denial and I don’t know how to argue with that, but your not alone. They don’t care about their people. They have plausible deniability if they have some infections. That is why they have the upper hand in this type warfare. Let me put this way. If the probability is relatively low this is still extremely important to consider because of how serious it is.
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1585840)
Plausible?
I'm asking you to describe for me: 1: The physical process by which the Government of China created a new virus, and then 2: Presupposing that this occurred, the decision-making process by which they reached the conclusion that releasing it domestically (within a Chinese city) rather than transporting it to the US and releasing it there, would be the most optimal strategy for influencing the 2020 US presidential election. |
And yes without COVID there would be no biden presidency. Controlling this election with the coronavirus was just part of the motivation. The timing is a big factor.
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