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Help me understand this.
Is this exactly what it sounds like. And does a bunch of other states do this? Isn't this unconstitutional? How / why are states allowed to supersede the constitution?
How / why are states allowed to supersede the constitution?
The constitution does not dictate the manner in which each state chooses its electors. If a state decides to disregard the will of its citizens and instead allocate its electoral votes in another manner, that's not something which existing federal or constitutional law expressly forbids.
Things like this make concern me. I'm not a big fan of hyperbole, but this is the sort of thing which has the potential to lead us all to a rather serious place.
IMHO, we're already in a rather serious place. The electoral college was intended specifically to prevent what Colorda appears to want, but then most of our Federal government has been operating in ways it was never intended to.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
The constitution does not dictate the manner in which each state chooses its electors. If a state decides to disregard the will of its citizens and instead allocate its electoral votes in another manner, that's not something which existing federal or constitutional law expressly forbids.
Things like this make concern me. I'm not a big fan of hyperbole, but this is the sort of thing which has the potential to lead us all to a rather serious place.
Now I'm not saying there is voter fraud but there sure are some curious results. Just looking at the popular vote, Biden has 8 million more votes than Hillary and he wasn't "my first choice, or my second choice, or my....." to many blue voters supposedly.
And looking at Arizona, a state that didn't give the nod to super popular Obama in either election. The last time Arizona was blue was for Clinton's second term. And the last time it was blue before that, well....... Then there is the almost 400,000 more votes for Biden than Hillary. Trump got about 150,000 more votes than in 2016 and Arizona's estimated population grew about 300,000 since 2016. So there is about 500,000 more votes in Arizona right now than in 2016 for a population that grew estimated less than that with a voter turnout that was already fairly high back in 2016 at 74%. I'm not saying this is proof of fraud, nor that it's impossible. I'm just saying it's rather curious.
And lastly, my next door neighbor who is a staunch Never Trumper spent this week in Arizona. Coincidence? I don't think so! Where is that damn Ancient Aliens meme. Here it is.
Now I'm not saying there is voter fraud but there sure are some curious results. Just looking at the popular vote, Biden has 8 million more votes than Hillary and he wasn't "my first choice, or my second choice, or my....." to many blue voters supposedly.
And looking at Arizona, a state that didn't give the nod to super popular Obama in either election. The last time Arizona was blue was for Clinton's second term. And the last time it was blue before that, well....... Then there is the almost 400,000 more votes for Biden than Hillary. Trump got about 150,000 more votes than in 2016 and Arizona's estimated population grew about 300,000 since 2016. So there is about 500,000 more votes in Arizona right now than in 2016 for a population that grew estimated less than that with a voter turnout that was already fairly high back in 2016 at 74%. I'm not saying this is proof of fraud, nor that it's impossible. I'm just saying it's rather curious.
And lastly, my next door neighbor who is a staunch Never Trumper spent this week in Arizona. Coincidence? I don't think so! Where is that damn Ancient Aliens meme. Here it is.
I mean talking to **** about McCain for forever might make the state that loves him not vote for you.
I mean talking to **** about McCain for forever might make the state that loves him not vote for you.
Sure I'll give you that. But he was talking **** about him in 2016.
And again, I'm not saying the numbers are impossible but that's a lot of new voters or a massive uptick in voter turnout.
Also, I don't live in Arizona nor did I visit it during this time. For all I know, the Dems were there heavily campaigning and they did their job. Plus not to mention all the media bombardment against Trump the last four years have been in vain. I'm positive it has had an impact.
So again, I'm not saying this is evidence of voter fraud. I just find the results curious.
I mean talking to **** about McCain for forever might make the state that loves him not vote for you.
Most Republicans in AZ detested McCain. Mark Kelly is McLame reincarnated, but at least he's actually admitted being a Democrat.
It has nothing to do with McCain... it's all about the influx of liberal locusts that destroyed their home states, and have moved here and are working on ours. And vote fraud. Maricopa county (Phoenix) is heavily democrat controlled as is Tucson.
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