I still don't understand. I understand what you are saying, and your outrage, but I don't understand what the article is saying overall.
Are they saying they simply raised tuition from 9,000 to 11,000 a year? from $6,000 to $9,000 a year? a static $2000 tuition "fee?" limiting student aid to less than $2000 of total tuition? Seriously. I don't get it. regardless, if there's no finicial reasoning, like the school doesn't have enough money to operate as such, then a "skin in the game" should apply TO the altheletes, who may make millions and millions of dollars. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 838832)
I still don't understand. I understand what you are saying, and your outrage, but I don't understand what the article is saying overall.
Are they saying they simply raised tuition from 9,000 to 11,000 a year? from $6,000 to $9,000 a year? a static $2000 tuition "fee?" limiting student aid to less than $2000 of total tuition? regardless, if there's no finicial reasoning, like the school doesn't have enough money to operate as such, then a "skin in the game" should apply TO the altheletes, who may make millions and millions of dollars. |
They are here to help us!
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Yes, they are here to help us give them our money as fast as possible.
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Originally Posted by blaen99
(Post 838834)
They added a $2,000 tax that goes to the state legislature, not the college or university for the mere privilege of attending.
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I found this article and the Senator's own comments have cleared up a few things for me:
http://politicsuncuffed.com/educatio...ome-arizonans/ Apparently all they are requiring is that these universities can no longer give out 100% free tutition subsities, only 80%. And that remainder of $2000 can still be paid in a form of a loan. They currently have a 48% rate of free rides. So the tuition rate is still the same... |
Wow Brainy, but that's even worse if you read the responses in the blog.
Go read the Representatives responses in the blog. That guy needs to be kicked out of their legislative body ASAP. The guy doesn't even give a ---- that that law may be unconstitutional. Getting so ------- tired of politicians that think a constitution isn't even worth the paper it's printed on. |
Why can Afghanis burn the US Flag but we can't burn Korans?
And why the EF should dolphins get human rights? That is contradictory in itself. |
That article really was horrifically written and nearly unintelligible. :facepalm:
It does not seem to be an increased tax but rather a reduced subsidy. I'm not familiar enough with Arizona's state budget to speak intelligently on that subject, but many states are required to run relatively balanced budgets but - and this is particularly true for the "sand states" - the decreases in property taxes and other revenue has hit them particularly hard. If the goal is to free up $18 million for the state schools to apply to their own budgets and, in turn, reduce state-level subsidies by $18 million in an effort to balance the state's budget... that may make sense to pursue. I can't really tell from my quick perusal. |
Originally Posted by blaen99
(Post 838881)
Wow Brainy, but that's even worse if you read the responses in the blog.
Go read the Representatives responses in the blog. That guy needs to be kicked out of their legislative body ASAP. The guy doesn't even give a ---- that that law may be unconstitutional. Getting so ------- tired of politicians that think a constitution isn't even worth the paper it's printed on. Really, cause it made me feel better about it and now I think all the fear mongering is stupid. Especially given the fact that it will free up $18,000,000 out of the state's budget. Or we could pull a Bob Dole and say increase taxes to make up the $18mil. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 838913)
Really, cause it made me feel better about it and now I think all the fear mongering is stupid. Especially given the fact that it will free up $18,000,000 out of the state's budget.
Damn. You are cheap bro. Ever consider a career in politics? But seriously, 18mill, or even 18bill is not worth ignoring constitutional issues. That's (part of) how we got where we are right now, Brainy. |
okay stretch armstrong.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 838915)
okay stretch armstrong.
But seriously, is 18mill on a budget all it takes to get you to ignore significant constitutional issues? AZ state law specifies this must be done in a ballot, not in legislation. |
You also said that the state is charging an extra $2000 and taking it for themselves.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 838918)
You also said that the state is charging an extra $2000 and taking it for themselves.
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Dodge what, that you are suggesting that AZ is a democratic system, not republic?
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If we educate everyone to be managers, who the ---- will be laborers? Down with educational subsidies.
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Originally Posted by fmowry
(Post 838302)
as far as i know there were two ice ages one was prehistoric and the other was documented and the article you linked to even said that it cant draw a conclusion on the little ice age there was a theory in there about black death (those are the words from the article) and how that may have lead to less agriculture it also said there was increased volcanic activity which is known to have a cooling effect on the earth and i do know for sure that towards the end of the little ice age there was a massive volcanic explosion that killed many near instantly and extended the little ice age you have debunked nothing with this |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1294417.html
And I thought Santorum couldn't sink any lower. ---- him.
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 838925)
Dodge what, that you are suggesting that AZ is a democratic system, not republic?
Originally Posted by Foogy
Stuff
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Originally Posted by blaen99
(Post 838365)
Honestly, at least food stamps contribute substantially to the local economy where they are used, Brainy.
how i would like to help and why i would like to help one thing is for sure i dont want to help a charity that simply has a sign up sheet i want to help a charity that helps people reach the point where they can stand on their own two feet goodwill does job training and they provide low cost items particularly clothing to people who can't hardly afford new clothes its a nice charity if you ask me i like goodwill |
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