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10-02-2017, 02:28 PM
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I am by no means a firearms expert, but based on the audio in the recording taken from the balcony area, my impression is that this was a fully-automatic rifle.
In what was is that relevant to anything? Probably isn't since, you know, full-auto rifles are all but illegal.
I expect we'll soon hear people talking about select-fire conversion kits.
In what was is that relevant to anything? Probably isn't since, you know, full-auto rifles are all but illegal.
I expect we'll soon hear people talking about select-fire conversion kits.
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10-02-2017, 02:46 PM
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Yeah if you listen to the videos you know it's not just "a semi-auto being shot really fast." Crank trigger makes sense you can hear the ROF speed up and slow down for a few cycles. I just bought a bump fire stock and crank trigger today because I know they'll be next on the ban list.
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10-02-2017, 02:56 PM
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Both of which are next to useless. Aimed controlled fire is where it is at. Full auto is for suppressing fire. Regardless millions of firearms are out there every day and more often then not they are used to protect rather then harm. I expect people to go full retard on this very fast. Bumpfire/slide fire are toys for enthusiasts and are not an issue. People will look at the guns when evil is the issue here.
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10-02-2017, 03:34 PM
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EXCLUSIVE: CBS Legal Exec Fired | The Daily Caller
A top legal executive at CBS was fired Monday for comments she made on a Facebook post that was first reported by The Daily Caller News Foundation.
“If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing,” Geftman-Gold wrote on Facebook, ostensibly referring to Sandy Hook. “I’m actually not even sympathetic bc country music fans often are Republican gun toters.”
The reaction to her comments from CBS was swift.
“If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing,” Geftman-Gold wrote on Facebook, ostensibly referring to Sandy Hook. “I’m actually not even sympathetic bc country music fans often are Republican gun toters.”
The reaction to her comments from CBS was swift.
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10-02-2017, 03:40 PM
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Machine guns are illegal in (I think 12) some states. Of the states that allow ownership, there are restrictions that prohibit hunting with them and a few other things, but "mostly" there is nothing different about owning a machine gun as any other gun. The background check the ATF performs for a transfer is the same as for any other gun except it's performed manually buy a person rather than automatically by a computer. Sometimes a manual check reveals something not caught in a auto-check, but it's usually a matter of paperwork and not a disqualifying issue. Basically, if you can buy a regular gun, you can buy a machine gun.
You wouldn't say a Beech Staggerwing is "all but illegal" just because they are relatively rare and expensive.
Here's the Gunbroker spread... everything from an Uzi to a MaDeuce... how much money you got, and can you wait 8 months for the background check to clear? Plenty to choose from. Some people in this forum have more money in a bicycle than it takes to buy a machine gun.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Machine-Guns/BI.aspx
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*loads next magazine*, and cranks away.
10-02-2017, 06:40 PM
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We had a tragedy, we did something. It seems to have worked to date, if it stops working hopefully we will do something to make it work again. What we did might not work for you, but we did something.
You have had tragedies too, and now another. Yet nothing seems to happen in response? Attempts at gun control are derided and opposed from within the gun community, without (it appears) any recognition that something might/could/should/must be done to avoid repeat events.
Is there no sense of community amongst gun owners? I mean that gun owners recognise the misuse of guns, the effects of this misuse, and the need for the community to act to protect itself? And that gun owners should be inside the tent, being part of the solution (if only to protect their interests).
I don't have answers for you, but I would have expected that you could find some answers for yourselves. In the absence of answers, it is self-evident that these events will be repeated, and that the only conclusion is that America is content to tolerate them as a price for ... something.
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10-02-2017, 06:43 PM
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If gun control is not the answer, what is? Or is this something that you will just live with - so many music fans this time, so many children another time, students, ... and so on into the future?
We had a tragedy, we did something. It seems to have worked to date, if it stops working hopefully we will do something to make it work again. What we did might not work for you, but we did something.
You have had tragedies too, and now another. Yet nothing seems to happen in response? Attempts at gun control are derided and opposed from within the gun community, without (it appears) any recognition that something might/could/should/must be done to avoid repeat events.
Is there no sense of community amongst gun owners? I mean that gun owners recognise the misuse of guns, the effects of this misuse, and the need for the community to act to protect itself? And that gun owners should be inside the tent, being part of the solution (if only to protect their interests).
I don't have answers for you, but I would have expected that you could find some answers for yourselves. In the absence of answers, it is self-evident that these events will be repeated, and that the only conclusion is that America is content to tolerate them as a price for ... something.
We had a tragedy, we did something. It seems to have worked to date, if it stops working hopefully we will do something to make it work again. What we did might not work for you, but we did something.
You have had tragedies too, and now another. Yet nothing seems to happen in response? Attempts at gun control are derided and opposed from within the gun community, without (it appears) any recognition that something might/could/should/must be done to avoid repeat events.
Is there no sense of community amongst gun owners? I mean that gun owners recognise the misuse of guns, the effects of this misuse, and the need for the community to act to protect itself? And that gun owners should be inside the tent, being part of the solution (if only to protect their interests).
I don't have answers for you, but I would have expected that you could find some answers for yourselves. In the absence of answers, it is self-evident that these events will be repeated, and that the only conclusion is that America is content to tolerate them as a price for ... something.
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10-02-2017, 08:47 PM
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This is a joke, right?
Who did the defending here - the police, the State.
You want anarchy on the streets? Disarming of the police? No a solution I see working, and I would not want to be visiting/living in such a place.
Who did the defending here - the police, the State.
You want anarchy on the streets? Disarming of the police? No a solution I see working, and I would not want to be visiting/living in such a place.
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10-02-2017, 08:50 PM
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Liberals are the ones practicing anarchy in the streets. Gun toting Republicans are busy watching country music festivals.
Liberals want to dearm law abiding citizens so they can revolt, take over, then starve everyone to death.
Liberals want to dearm law abiding citizens so they can revolt, take over, then starve everyone to death.
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10-02-2017, 08:55 PM
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It is a problem.
I don't know what the solution is, but I doubt that arming the citizenry is it. "We have a (gun) problem, and we are going to throw more guns at it" doesn't ring my bells, but I see it is sometimes put forward. Whatever the solution is, I hope it is found soon, and the bloodshed minimised.
I don't know what the solution is, but I doubt that arming the citizenry is it. "We have a (gun) problem, and we are going to throw more guns at it" doesn't ring my bells, but I see it is sometimes put forward. Whatever the solution is, I hope it is found soon, and the bloodshed minimised.
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