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Old 11-10-2016, 08:20 PM
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So whats Trumps plan on birth control?
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Apart from the existence of free-market capitalism, I agree.

Look at what happened to the cost of air travel and long-distance service after the deregulation of the airline and telephone industries. Both rapidly plunged to previously unimaginable lows in the face of price competition. We all like to bitch about travel costs and wireless rates, but forget that air travel and long distance phone service used to be so expensive that they were essentially luxury goods, and are now taken for granted as a part of everyday life.
Which is why I had the disclaimer above. About sans "competitive pressure".



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If your business is in a competitive retail environment, and you do not already brand yourself as an exclusive luxury commodity, then yes. You'll do it as soon your competitors do.

From your post above, it seems that you may not be in a competitive market. If this is true, then props to you. When I was freelancing, I was charging $150 an hour to type words and draw lines on a screen. I could do this because a combination of luck and skill (mostly luck) had put me in a position where I was basically the only person in the entire world with my particular combination of skills and experience, which were in demand at the time. But I recognize that most people do not enjoy that luxury, just as my time in that particular limelight has passed and I'm back in the corporate world.
It's really not "competitive" in the sense of 2 fast food restaurants beside each other... The industrial world is different (best way to put it). In today's market, experience is king. Documented experience is even better. It's hard to break into because you have to have the contacts/network with a reputation that you can use as references. We decided to leave corporate world in 2010 after the "Great Recession" and went on our own as a tech rep firm. The world is full of companies who can't afford to hire a technical sales force and don't know a given market (meaning user company) or the channel to that user, and are willing to pay a commission or fee or both. The trick is to have a balance of principals with just enough overlap of products each with a niche to keep you in demand. The competitive forces are more nuanced if you can understand what I mean.

I contracted as a young engineer out of school for a couple years a long time ago. Tough life... Kudos to you.
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A little humor.

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Originally Posted by Monk
I realize I'm of a different generation but I've always wondered the fascination with "colored" hair? In keeping with the "all men are pigs" theme?

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I say this in the most shallow, chauvinistic way possible: is totally give her something else to bitch and rant to her snowflake friends about.

Just gotta pretend that those dead caterpillars aren't stuck to her forehead.
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Originally Posted by triple88a
So whats Trumps plan on birth control?
I doubt he's going to have another Trump kid soon.
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I doubt he's going to have another Trump kid soon.
Yeah, I was going to guess "the pill" like I assume Obama is using. I was also wondering why it was relevant to governance.
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I am someone who is a professional in B2B sales of big ticket items and have been for 15 years. It is a highly competitive market with about 7 major competitors. I can say unequivocally that a 10% drop in costs for all competitors immediately shows as a 10% drop in sale prices. Otherwise you lose deals and offer the opportunity for your competitors to build relationships with your customers. Costs and prices track very closely in mature environments with no outside intervention. If you have a novel product or service with no competitors or the competition is artificially limited (EpiPen) then things skew. But the free market usually delivers the best products for the best prices by its very nature. EpiPen would have never been exorbitantly priced if it wasn't artificially protected from competition.
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^All day, e'ery day.

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Which is why I had the disclaimer above. About sans "competitive pressure".
All I get from this is "I don't want to have a serious debate about the real world and would rather be in a classroom debating hypotheticals"

Joe explained it. Without the taxes, someone will go "****, I can lower my prices and make the same margin and hopefully gain market share."
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Regarding the idea that the wealthy support Trump, I offer this Forbes article:

Class Warrior
Class has been a bigger factor in this election than in any election since the New Deal era. Trump’s insurgency rode largely on middle- and working-class fears about globalization, immigration and the cultural arrogance of the “progressive” cultural elite. This is something Bill Clinton understands better than his wife.
Trump owes his election to what one writer has called “the leftover people.” These may be “deplorables” to the pundits but their grievances are real – their incomes and their lifespans have been decreasing. They have noticed, as Thomas Frank has written, that the Democrats have gone “from being the party of Decatur to the party of Martha’s Vineyard.”
Many of these voters were once Democrats, and feel they have been betrayed. And they include a large swath of the middle class, whose fury explains much of what happened tonight. Trump has connected better with these voters than Romney, who won those making between $50,000 and $90,000 by a narrow 52 percent margin. Early analysis of this year’s election shows Trump doing better among these kind of voters.
At the same time, however, affluent voters — those making $100,000 and above — seem to have tilted over to the Democrats this year. This is the first time the “rich” have gone against the GOP since the 1964 Goldwater debacle. Obama did better among the wealthy, winning eight of the 10 richest counties in 2012. In virtually all these counties, Clinton did even better.
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Regarding the idea that the wealthy support Trump, I offer this Forbes article:

Class Warrior
Class has been a bigger factor in this election than in any election since the New Deal era. Trump’s insurgency rode largely on middle- and working-class fears about globalization, immigration and the cultural arrogance of the “progressive” cultural elite. This is something Bill Clinton understands better than his wife.
Trump owes his election to what one writer has called “the leftover people.” These may be “deplorables” to the pundits but their grievances are real – their incomes and their lifespans have been decreasing. They have noticed, as Thomas Frank has written, that the Democrats have gone “from being the party of Decatur to the party of Martha’s Vineyard.”
Many of these voters were once Democrats, and feel they have been betrayed. And they include a large swath of the middle class, whose fury explains much of what happened tonight. Trump has connected better with these voters than Romney, who won those making between $50,000 and $90,000 by a narrow 52 percent margin. Early analysis of this year’s election shows Trump doing better among these kind of voters.
At the same time, however, affluent voters — those making $100,000 and above — seem to have tilted over to the Democrats this year. This is the first time the “rich” have gone against the GOP since the 1964 Goldwater debacle. Obama did better among the wealthy, winning eight of the 10 richest counties in 2012. In virtually all these counties, Clinton did even better.


Although himself a businessman, he was opposed overwhelmingly by his own class. Clinton won more support from big business and the business elite. If you had a billionaire primary, Clinton would have won by as much as 20 to 1. Initially many of those business interests closest to both Obama and Clinton — Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Hollywood — will be on the outside looking in. Their advantages from tax avoidance could be lessened. Merger-mania, yet another form of asset inflation, will continue unabated, particularly in the tech and media space.
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Trump = RINO
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
Trump = RINO
Do you consider this to be a bad thing?

I ask the following in all seriousness: What is the definition of a Republican in the present day? And how has this definition changed over time, since the founding of the party in the mid 19th century?
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Got another question. Why is it that republicans want LESS rules and laws controlling them however they want more people to be forced to follow their religious beliefs and views? Whats that about?
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